Can you eat scrambled eggs without a fork?
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Can you eat scrambled eggs without a fork?
Answer this question and there will be another that will hopefully help you understand what I was trying to say
I am finished debating with you. Have a very nice day and week.
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I was trying to explain it:
You can eat the eggs without a fork but you can't eat scrambled eggs WITHOUT THE EGG.
The egg is the sacrifice.
So no matter how much praying one does(the fork), without the sacrifice (or egg - that you said you believe in, which I wasn't questioning) all the praying in the world would be for not.
You need the sacrifice
That's where I was going. I wasn't questioning rather or not it's valid or you do or don't or should or shouldn't believe in it.
That's a different topic altogether.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
I can tell you the exact number that will go to heaven. You are probably wondering how anyone could know that with certainty and the answer is that the number is provided for us in the scriptures.
So if you want to know how many have gone to heaven, you need only read your bible.
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I was trying to explain it:
You can eat the eggs without a fork but you can't eat scrambled eggs WITHOUT THE EGG.
The egg is the sacrifice.
So no matter how much praying one does(the fork), without the sacrifice (or egg - that you said you believe in, which I wasn't questioning) all the praying in the world would be for not.
You need the sacrifice
That's where I was going. I wasn't questioning rather or not it's valid or you do or don't or should or shouldn't believe in it.
That's a different topic altogether.
If I got what you were saying wrong, I apologize. Suffice it to say that I believe that we need the sacrifice and you don't believe that we would need it if there wasn't any reason. I really don't understand what you are saying, however, if that isn't it. The egg example didn't make sense to me at all. I mean you wouldn't have scrambled eggs without any eggs, but then nothing is scrambled at all and if there is nothing then nothing would be said and we wouldn't discuss nothing (Or maybe we would, I have discussed nothing pretty well in my time, ha-ha).
The sacrifice is implied by scriptures. If one doesn't believe in the scriptures then he or she isn't going to believe in the sacrifice for any reason. As I keep saying, I wouldn't expect anyone who doesn't believe in scriptures to accept anything that they say- no matter what religion the scriptures come from (A lot of different religions have different scriptures, and I see a resemblance in them, although they are not totally alike).
Ignoring who believes what for a minute, would you agree or disagree that no matter how much a person prays to the christian god, they can't be saved without the christian god's sacrifce having happened?
waitasec
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People were saved even before Christ died, if you read the OT. None of those people written about in the OT were perfect by any means: King David committed adultery, Abraham told people that Sara was his sister but never said she was his wife, and yet these men were both saved. So I would say yes, it is possible so as long as you worship God. Jesus sacrifice was to eliminate more heavy requirements of repentance- such as the lamb sacrifice.
(and yes, this is my opinion- anything I write on these forums is my opinion, for future reference
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Jesus died to save the lambs.
I didn't really mean to say that. David didn't have a sacrifice when he was forgiven of adultery. He said to the prophet, Nathan "I have sinned against God" and Nathan said "The Lord forgives you". But the child that resulted died. I think maybe the penalty was lowered.
Edit: I meant lowered for us
Jesus died to save the lambs.
Also, sacrifice included eating the said lamb. We, as humans, still eat meat. Not all of us, mind you, but some do.
waitasec
Veteran Member
i would say the child was the sacrifice.
I don't know about that. Since I believe that God takes children and babies "home" when they die, then I don't see it that way. I guess I can understand why you do.
Edit: And a sacrifice would be a willing one.
Brings up a good point: How? And why was a sacrifice needed in the NT and not the OT? Why not have the sacrifice earlier?
Brings up a good point: How? And why was a sacrifice needed in the NT and not the OT? Why not have the sacrifice earlier?
I can't really answer that.
Which brings up yet another interesting question:
if the christian god is real, why not relate the answer to such a question to all its believers?
Why are some "gifted" with knowledge while others aren't?
Seems like the same god would want his followers to know the same principles and fundamentals, no?
Or why not?
waitasec
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being that the child suffered needlessly for a week i'd say god has a sick sense of atonement...
tell that to all those animals that were bbq all for the purpose of filling gods nostrils with a sweet-smelling fragrance :sarcastic
waitasec
Veteran Member
maybe some are just gifted with the talent of pulling BS out of their arses
while others are honest about what they know
Mehr Licht
Ave Sophia
It's possible that the sacrifice of Christ transcends the limitations of time and even those living before that event occurred in history were able to participate in it or benefit from it in some manner ?
maybe some are just gifted with the talent of pulling BS out of their arses
while others are honest about what they know
Maybe...?
Likely!