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Is there any significant difference between Libertarians and Republicans?
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Father Heathen
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Libertarians support social/personal freedoms such as gay rights and marijuana legalization.
But don't moderate Republicans also support such personal freedoms? Are Libertarians like moderate Republicans on social issues, and extremist Republicans on fiscal and economic issues, then?
Some big differences are that we favor:
- Low taxes
- Constitutionally limited government
- Small government
- Gay rights
- Abortion rights
- Drug decriminalization
- No foreign adventurism
- No business subsidies or rescues
- Low taxes
- Constitutionally limited government
- Small government
- Gay rights
- Abortion rights
- Drug decriminalization
- No foreign adventurism
- No business subsidies or rescues
Are you seriously suggesting Republicans do not favor those things?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
A republican that supports gay rights or marijuana legalization is extremely rare. None dare cross their christian conservative base.
I don't merely suggest it, I clearly state that they do not support these things.
Some individual Pubs & Dems might lean slightly in the direction of one or more, but none embrace all.
Are you seriously suggesting that Republicans actually do favor those things?
In theory there are, but the only noticable major differences are in areas like government reach and warefare.
Typically Republicians support a fairly robust federal government, particularly in the areas of military and law enforcement. They don't advocate returning all public property to private ownership, and they support wars waged for reasons other than self- defense.
(Some) libertarians call for returning all government property, from roads to national parks, to private ownership, and believe that infrastructure should be dealt with through private parties. And the only acceptable war is one fought on US soil in order to stop an invading army.
Unfortunately, the libertarian moniker has been largely hijacked over the last couple of election cycles by disgruntled Republicans and Tea Partyers who want to distance themselves from what they view as a "moderate" GOP.
Typically Republicians support a fairly robust federal government, particularly in the areas of military and law enforcement. They don't advocate returning all public property to private ownership, and they support wars waged for reasons other than self- defense.
(Some) libertarians call for returning all government property, from roads to national parks, to private ownership, and believe that infrastructure should be dealt with through private parties. And the only acceptable war is one fought on US soil in order to stop an invading army.
Unfortunately, the libertarian moniker has been largely hijacked over the last couple of election cycles by disgruntled Republicans and Tea Partyers who want to distance themselves from what they view as a "moderate" GOP.
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Pubs are quick to go to war while Libs do not.
That and the pot and abortion thing.
Pretty much one could say Libertarians are not tied to the religious right like Republicans are.
That and the pot and abortion thing.
Pretty much one could say Libertarians are not tied to the religious right like Republicans are.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Right, the biggest and most obvious difference is that the libertarians don't push the christian fundamentalist agenda like the republicans do.
I'm extremely rare? You all should worship me for that then.
That's overly specific, & not on the party platform.
People do love to redefine us & appropriate the name, dat's fer sure.
I never asserted that it was on the platform. There are quite a few libertarian principles that aren't specifically listed there.
I take issue with your statement beginning with "Libertarians call for....".
You could say "Some Libertarians...", which would avoid over-generalizing.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I'm extremely rare? You all should worship me for that then.
Why would you support a party that's incompatible with your values?
Because the other party is worse?
I embrace sink or swim with basic very basic support nets. Three hots and a cot.
You may not agree with my tough love, but rewarding failure and penalising success is counter productive.
I also have two viewpoints, my religion that should not be one size fits all and my politics which favors small government.
A government that is cumbersome and wasteful is a recipe for disaster.
I make my money off of risk and all the safety nets are killing me.
While my politics are tough, my personal beliefs are not.
Your no different, you don't support gun control and the person you will be voting for does.
I am a tea bagger, I'm trying to reform my party and make them fiscally responsible.
You're free to take issue with it. There is no way any statement could effectively describe every person who subscribes to a particular political philosophy, and the official party platform does not define the libertarian philosophy.
But, if it will help, I hereby amend my previous comment to say "some" libertarians.
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Woo hoo! Detente!