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Is premarital sex really a sin?

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Doodlebug02, Nov 4, 2007.

  1. Doodlebug02

    Doodlebug02 Active Member

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    Is premarital sex really a sin? The Bible condemns sexual immorality but not premarital sex. I personally do not believe that premarital sex is a sin. What do you believe?
     
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    It all depends. It is a sin if you want to follow a certain religion that doesn't allow sex without marriage. If you have no religion, then how can it be a sin for you?

    Wouldn't you say that if someone is without God that the most important thing is that he does accept and believe God? After the person accepts God, then we get into the rules and regulations of our prescribed religion and/or denomination. That is something that a lot of people don't seem to realize.
    Let us use Jesus as an example to this: He did not go up to known 'sinners' and tell them they are doomed, He taught them and healed them. He instead blasted the people who were already religious and followed their religion (the Pharisees). Sometimes people like the pharisees become so wrapped up in following rules that they forget who they are supposed to worshiping and they forget that it does not make them a better person.
    I rambled on too long on, forgive me.
     
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  3. Mister_T

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    I personally don't believe it to be a sin, in accordance with the Bible. There is not enough evidence in the Bible to support monogamous, premarital sex being condemned, IMO.
     
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    I feel it's implied not once but throughout the Bible that marriage between a man and woman is sacred and that man and woman are united through that sacred bond. It makes sense to me that God would want a man and woman to wait until they've entered that bond to join as one in the flesh.

    So, yes, I personally believe it to be a sin, to have sex before marriage.

    "Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge." Hebrews 13:5 NKJV
     
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  5. Smoke

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    What do you mean "really"?
     
  6. Pariah

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    The poster is questioning what he or she feels to be obvious.
     
  7. Buttercup

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    If you believe the definition of 'fornication' to mean sex between unmarried people, then yes, the bible does condemn that practice. Can't get away from it actually.

    Here, do a search.....you'll find fornication listed quite a few times in the bible.

    BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 50 versions and 35 languages.
     
  8. Comprehend

    Comprehend Res Ipsa Loquitur

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    yep.

    premarital sex IS sexual immorality. ;)


    Rationalization is funny.
     
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  9. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    Why? Is this view based on Biblical ethics?
     
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    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    What does the Bible imply by "marriage"? Could the marriage simply be a personal commitment, or must it be a social event? Is there a specific ritual involved?
     
  11. MoonWater

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    I don't believe it is a sin. The way I see it pre marital sex is a sin only if you follow a religion that says it is. Every religion has certain rules and guidelines one must follow those in order to be part of that religion. If your religion says you should not have sex before marriage then to do so would go against your religion. And since (ideally) your religion is a part of you it would also be going against yourself. So I don't believe it is a sin but then my religion says only "an it harm none do as ye will" and provided it's concentual and the right precautions are taken and your ready for it premarital sex won't harm harm. However if you are part of a religion that says to wait or for some other reason you feel you should wait then wait. What most people seem to forget is that the rules listed in the bible are meant to be followed by those who follow either Jewish(OT) or Christian(NT) traditions. Why should you follow the rules of a particular religion if you don't follow that particular religion?
     
  12. Buttercup

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    I agree with you. Personally, I answered the question based on the author of the OP having a cross as her avatar and her religion listed as Methodist which of course is Christian.

    I don't see how those who are not Christian or religious in general can be held to the same 'rules' the religious follow.
     
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  13. Reverend Rick

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    If you are not religious, who is going hold you to any 'rules'?
     
  14. Buttercup

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    I believe that's what I said.
     
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    That all depends on what version you're looking at, Chimpy. ;)

    It doesn't appear once in the NIV for example.
     
  16. Buttercup

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    Haha! Well, as you know I'm not a Christian any longer so don't think I'm pointing a judgmental finger at you, Nick. ;)

    However, note this scripture from Matthew 19

    "For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "

    Notice how adultery is mentioned and then sexual immorality. Exactly what is YOUR definition of sexual immorality? Do all Christians decide for themselves what constitutes the definition of that term?
     
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  17. Mister_T

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    Wasn't thinking that at all. :)

    Well, I don't have a definition. :D

    A good place to start in the Bible would 1 Corinthians 12-18, which is titled "Sexual Immorality." There Paul gives a description of what is considered sexual immoral (fornication not being listed). You can also look in Proverbs where adultery is laid out for everyone....and you guessed it, fornication isn't there either.

    The Bible frequently lays out what is considered adultery, fornication and idolatry. Not once in the NIV is fornication mentioned or even blatantly hinted at. You'd have to do a lot of digging and assuming to prove otherwise.
     
  18. Buttercup

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    Ok, good. :)
    Hmm. So, the bible (varying versions I assume) does lay out what is considered fornication but if you follow the NIV translation you're exempt from committing sin if you engage in premarital sex?
     
  19. Comprehend

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    You will have to ask God why, but it probably has something to do with the sacred nature of sex, the sacred nature of procreation and the fact that the ability to create new life is probably the most God-like ability we have been given.

    Yes, it is based on the Bible among other scripture.

    Deut. 22:13-30.

    Matt. 5:27-30.

    Acts. 15:20; 21:25.

    1 Cor. 5:1; 6:18-20.
     
  20. Comprehend

    Comprehend Res Ipsa Loquitur

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    Because God made the rules for everyone... not just those who accept the rules.
     
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