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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Muffled, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    This is a spinoff from the thread "Is Religion Logical."

    I believe that I would prefer to address the central message of Christianity but I recognize that there are a lot of ancillary aspects of the religion as well.

    I believe it is logical to seek a higher power to do what one can't do for oneself.
     
  2. sovietchild

    sovietchild Well-Known Member

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    How can it be logical? Didn't Jesus walked this earth and ate food like regular people? Does God need to consume energy? I don't think so.
     
  3. Kemosloby

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    That sounds more pathetic than logical. Now if you said, it seems logical to believe in religion if you recognize it's message as truth, That would be logical.
     
  4. Skwim

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    [Taking the thread off topic for a moment] If believing in religion is logical, then what do you see as its (religion) message?

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  5. Muffled

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    I believe that shows how little you know about Christianity and God.

    I believe the logis is as follows:
    God hates sin.
    Jesus takes away sin.
    Conclusion: God gets what He wants.

    What could be more logical?
     
  6. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    I believe recognizing truth is illogical. It implies that one already knows the truth in order to recognize it but when and how did that happen?

    I don't believe you can refute the logic but that is what the Bible tells us that we are all pathetic.
     
  7. Muffled

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    See post #5.
     
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    A terrible knock-off that steal Holidays and names from Pagan and the rest from Judaism. Still, Jesus has demonstrated some level of power according to lore, which means the Christian God is either a spirit who decides to become a god, or a being born out of mortal belief that predates Judaism, as 'Yahweh' has popped up over 3 thousand years ago in some Pagan religion who has a wife that is way more powerful than him.
     
  9. Kemosloby

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    Many messages but moreso than any that we are corrupted by sin. Every other religion or philosophy seems to have hope of fixing that problem in this lifetime. Christianity says the only way is death and resurrection.
     
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    How is that even logical? Sounds cheesy to me. How is Christianity not imitation of Buddhism?
     
  11. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    It can be logical in approach, but can it be illogically pursued as well?

    Spock?

    (Runs off to hear Supertramp because it was the logical thing to do.)
     
  12. Skwim

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    Just so you're aware.

    "17. The idea of sin or original sin has no place in Buddhism. Also, sin should not be equated to suffering."
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    "Unlike many faiths, Hinduism admits of no mortal sin, no eternal hell, no satan, no intrinsic evil."
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    Together, these two religions alone comprise almost 1/4 of all religious believers in the world. So, every other religion or philosophy does not have hope of "fixing that problem in this lifetime."

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  13. Kemosloby

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    That's what I mean. Most other religions don't acknowledge sin. But their goals generally have self improvement type things, and if we aren't corrupted with sin what need have we for self improvement?
     
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    Why? I was talking about religion, not Christianity in particular.

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    So the only thing you have to improve within yourself is your sinning? Well, how fortunate. Most people aren't this close to perfection.

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    I dont see its logical. It sounds more of mans attempt to find something he believes he cannot find on his own. A kind of depression and mid life crisis.

    Why do you think you cant do it yourself?

    What cant you do for yourself?

    Is it important, this thing you cant do?
     
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  17. Kemosloby

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    Sin is a broad brush. Sin is something inside of people that makes them not right. Sinning is the outward expression of sin.
     
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    As for the OP question, "Is Christianity logical?" No it isn't.

    The contention that god is omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, and all loving alone break its logic into tiny fragments. Couple this with the insistence of some Christians that everything in the Bible is literally true, and you have one messy religion that begs to be cherry-picked. Add to this the fragmented nature of its structure (217 denominations in the USA alone as of 2006) and the hope of finding any logic to it becomes neigh impossible.

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  19. Skwim

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    Okay.
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    Sin for me is not logical.
    Human sacrifice as payment for sin is not logical.
    Accepting people you know almost nothing about, speaking for God, as a reliable source of information is not logical.
    Prayer is not logical.
    The Trinity is not logical although not all Christian denominations accept the Trinity.

    BTW, I'm not specifically attacking Christianity, just noting some things I personally have found illogical.
     
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