Inerrancy of the Bible and other Religious Texts

[michel]

Lots of books mention floods. Very few(none to be precise) that mention a global flood are taken seriously.

You got that right, Fade (except what you said in your parenthesis).

 

[michel]

So why isn't it simply that the Bible a source that could be used to validate those other books?

I'm sorry, Feather; I didn't understand your question.

 

[Feathers in Hair]

Fade, I was homeschooled. My mom became a Buddhist and I became a pantheist. It's not always detrimental.

So you shouldn't be allowed to ask questions about the validity of what's inside other people's heads, by that token?

 

[Feathers in Hair]

I'm sorry, Feather; I didn't understand your question.

I apologize. I wasn't very clear.

For example, if I wanted to choose "The Epic of Gilgamesh," or one of the many First Nation tales that mention a flood as my holy text. Would the Bible then be used as simply something I can point to and say "Yes, the flood happened, here's another work stating it did"?

Would this then be okay?

 

[Ryan2065]

So just ignore the errors I pointed out in the bible AV1611? I would think that to point out even one error would prove the book is not Inerrant. How bout we start small, tell me how this is not an error in the bible.

King is 32 when he comes to power. Serves 8 years. His son comes to power after him, his son is 42 when he comes to power.

How isn't this an error?

 

[Ceridwen018]

AV1611,

What do you have to say about my opinions of your "external" and "internal reasonings"?

 

[Fade]

Fade, I was homeschooled. My mom became a Buddhist and I became a pantheist. It's not always detrimental.

So you shouldn't be allowed to ask questions about the validity of what's inside other people's heads, by that token?

Well now, homeschooling from a buddhist parent can't be bad. It's one of the few religions I have any respect for. So in answer to your question...no. Anyway I was just making an observation based on an assumption so don't take me seriously

 

[michel]

I apologize. I wasn't very clear.

For example, if I wanted to choose "The Epic of Gilgamesh," or one of the many First Nation tales that mention a flood as my holy text. Would the Bible then be used as simply something I can point to and say "Yes, the flood happened, here's another work stating it did"?

Would this then be okay?

Well, here's one of my favorite sayings, Feather, and I don't mean to offend by saying it:

WHERE [whatever] DISAGREES WITH THE BIBLE, [whatever] IS WRONG.

Be it the NIV, the Bhagavad Gita, the Epic of Gilgamesh, something George Washington said, something "I" said, Science, whatever.

And I'm not just saying this arbitrarily. I've read the Bible many times, studied all its "contradictions" (to date, anyway), and done a lot of comparing.

No disrespect toward you intended.

 

[Fascist Christ]

Regarding the Exodus...

That would be easier to prove to you, wouldn't it?

Actually, I do not need to prove anything. I just need to show that there are other explanations for it without resorting to supernatural causes. I do not profess to know what exactly really happened, so I have no stance to prove.

My point is, how much faith can people reasonably put into this Moses guy? Why is he more trustworthy than me?

 

[michel]

So just ignore the errors I pointed out in the bible AV1611? I would think that to point out even one error would prove the book is not Inerrant. How bout we start small, tell me how this is not an error in the bible.

King is 32 when he comes to power. Serves 8 years. His son comes to power after him, his son is 42 when he comes to power.

How isn't this an error?

King who?

 

[michel]

Regarding the Exodus...
Actually, I do not need to prove anything. I just need to show that there are other explanations for it without resorting to supernatural causes. I do not profess to know what exactly really happened, so I have no stance to prove.

My point is, how much faith can people reasonably put into this Moses guy? Why is he more trustworthy than me?

Maybe because he was there, and you weren't?

 

[Fascist Christ]

Maybe because he was there, and you weren't?

And you know that... why? Because he said so?

Besides, I mean not whether you trust him conscerning the particular event, but rather his communications with God. Would you trust me if I said I was communicating with God?

 

[Feathers in Hair]

For the sake of accuracy, I should clarify that my mom, sister and I all 'started out' as Christians. I also meant no disrespect to Christians that homeschool.

Well, here's one of my favorite sayings, Feather, and I don't mean to offend by saying it:

WHERE [whatever] DISAGREES WITH THE BIBLE, [whatever] IS WRONG.

No offense taken. I will respect your beliefs and not challenge them.

*steps out of thread*

 

[Ceridwen018]

Maybe because he was there, and you weren't?

Zeus was "there" in all of the stories about him. Why don't you believe them?

 

[michel]

And you know that... why? Because he said so?

Besides, I mean not whether you trust him conscerning the particular event, but rather his communications with God. Would you trust me if I said I was communicating with God?

Look, after having read the Bible more than 10 times, and living a Christian life for more than 24 years, and having attended college, etc; I have concluded that EVERYTHING written the the King James Bible is the facts as God conveyed them to us.

When I read that Moses talked to God, I now accept that Moses talked to God.

If YOU tell me that YOU communicated to God, I would have to take your word for it, not having a) read what God said about you; b) lived with you for more than 24 years.

I would simply think that what you're telling me is that you have prayed to Him, and He has spoken to you through the Bible.

Does that make sense?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Somehow, and in some twisted way, Deut, I feel I won't be able to --- to you that is.

Please provide testable evidence of the Exodus/Conquest and stop hiding behind implied ad hominem.

 

[michel]

Zeus was "there" in all of the stories about him. Why don't you believe them?

Were the stories written by men who gave their lives believing them to be true?
Did Zeus personally inspire the men who wrote about him?
Was the most powerful empire on the face of the Earth at the time able to supress him?
Was time itself split into b.Z and a.d.
Are there churches or religious edifices erected to Zeus?
Wherever two or more are gathered in Zeus' name, is Zeus there in their midst?
Does Zeus have an empty tomb?

 

[Feathers in Hair]

*restrains herself*

 

[michel]

Please provide testable evidence of the Exodus/Conquest and stop hiding behind implied ad hominem.

Again, Deut, NO I WON'T.

Not to you, anyway.

When you can respect my posts and the info I've already supplied to you ... and prove it to me ... then maybe you'll regain my respect back for you.

Until then, I have a feeling that no matter what I say, you are going to disagree (as you have over and over in the past).

So work on earning my respect back, then we'll talk.

 

[Ceridwen018]

Were the stories written by men who gave their lives believing them to be true?
Did Zeus personally inspire the men who wrote about him?
Wherever two or more are gathered in Zeus' name, is Zeus there in their midst?

Its all possible. Just as possible as it is for your Jesus.

Was time itself split into b.Z and a.d.

No, because Zeus always was and always will be.

Are there churches or religious edifices erected to Zeus?

Absolutely.

Was the most powerful empire on the face of the Earth at the time able to supress him?

Yes. Its called America.

Does Zeus have an empty tomb?

No, but his half human, half divine son named Hercules does. Coincidence? I think not.