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Yes... and that's my point... we have the empirical Church to guide us... Islam is without such structure and seems to rest upon the teachings of ONE MAN... not the Koran as I have been told by Muslims is the case.... I'm only responding to what I have been told is the truth.... as this next poster shows------------->lunamoth said:Scott, Wouldn't you say though that from a Catholic, EO (or any other Christian non-Sola Scrpitura) view the same could be said about the Bible in relation to Christianity?
See what I mean? The "Quran is very clear".... but only when you get it "right"....Peace said:God doen't need an interpreter. His message is very clear and reading the holy Quran is not at all a waste of time. The Quran is very clear but some of the verses need interpretation, they need to be put into context the historical when they were revealed, that's why we have to go back to the Tafseer "interpretation" and to the Hadith and Prophet Sunnah that simplify and make it for us to understand every smallest matter. But the Quran in itself is clear and its teachings have to do with all what we need in our life and it purifies the soul and brings peace to the heart.
Scott1 said:Yes... and that's my point... we have the empirical Church to guide us... Islam is without such structure and seems to rest upon the teachings of ONE MAN... not the Koran as I have been told by Muslims is the case.... I'm only responding to what I have been told is the truth.... as this next poster shows------------->
maro said:...Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater. (sura3 ,verse 118)
gnostic said:I think you are trying to win an unwin-able battle, MW.
But I will try to remind people here, too.
This topic about an individual who leave Islam, and the consequences....if any....of leaving this religion.
It's not about Muhammad, Jesus, Moses or any other prophet you can think of. It's not about end time. For Moon Woman's sake, start a new topic if you want to continue this current direction of debate, otherwise stick to the topic.
maro said:I think the major difference , between Muslims and others has become very clear in this thread
Muslims love jesus , respect him , and call him a great prophet ( peace and blessings be upon him )
while others are full of hatred towards our great beloved prophet , Muhammed _ peace and blessings be upon him _
I know this is not the case for all christians ,
but it really makes me sad , that this is the case for some of them ,
are these the teachings of christianity ? I don't think so
in my country , there are a lot of chritians , they are part of our muslim community , our neighbours and friends ,
and all we see from them is respect and love , to all prophets and all religions ,