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if Jesus(pbuh) is God?
- Thread starter F0uad
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lunakilo
Well-Known Member
You mean this: Numbers 31 ?
Part of the old testament as far as I know. Isn't the old testament more a jewish thing?
I see you listed your religion as islam, doesn't islam has something to say about the old testament? What do you say about Numbers 31?
Personally I think Numbers 31 is horrible, but I am not religious, so I don't suppose that really matters
Shermana
Heretic
This account is really horrible. I don't know why anyone would think a being who commands such things can be God
Who said anything about God having to be all care bears and warm fuzzy hugs?
What if being God made Him obligated to destroy civilizations that went sour?
Those religions say that God is 'good' and merciful.
I personally could not worship a being who acts in a manner that I perceive as evil.
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
Exactly. As you perceive. Do you think you can perceive anything the same as God can?
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Do you think that anything good could come out of a Divine decree which ordered that all, even women, be killed if they were not virgins?
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
Interesting.
Christians like to say that Jesus(as) is God in the flesh, and that he brought peace and what the "Mosaic law" truly taught. Yet this (and many other instances) contradict it.
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
Its not my place to say. Whats my word compared to Gods?
So how do you decide if one concept is the real God concept or not? If you found a passage in your scripture that says God laughed as he slowly chopped off pieces of a child's body while it screamed in agony, would you be like 'oh well God is doing it so it must be good'. Or do you think 'wow this is evil'?
Assad91
Shi'ah Ali
But that isn't the case is it?
We are talking of a war against a people by another people.
I posed a hypothetical question and would like if you answered as it is relevant to my point and the one you tried to make.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
You can judge it from a human perspective: why would he encourage one group of people to kill another, who included innocent people, whose only crimes had been to have had sex?
Or to be a male child.
Shermana
Heretic
They could be reborn in a civilization that hadn't racked up so much bad karma.
Bad karma like messing with the Chosen Civilization-Caste of the most high god in a way which undermined their holiness.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Or that. :/
Shermana
Heretic
If I found such a passage I'd assume that this kid did something horrible to deserve such.
Wouldn't that be the same in your belief too?
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
Could be, although Abrahamic religions don't usually have reincarnation as a common doctrine.
I'm not one who cares for concepts of chosen civilizations or anything, but even so, is 'messing' with them a good enough reason for a Divine decree for total warfare?
Shermana
Heretic
That is true, modern (post Orthodox) Christianity does not, but you won't find many outright rejections of the concept among the Rabbis, and there's indeed many hints of it in the OT, as I've discussed in more details on other threads. It's basically official in Kabala and Hassidism.
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Absolutely, the "messing" I'm referring to was considered something that would totally denigrate their holiness and was basically part of a plot to ultimately destroy them and their connection to the Divine.
Not at all.
If i found a passage in my scriptures similar to those referred to in the OP, i would completely and utterly reject my religion.