Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Can a rock lie to you?
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if God can do anything, can he lie?
- Thread starter cambridge79
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Can a rock lie to you?
Technically, I do not see the lie. He did not say the sacrifice will end successfully.
What I see is a useless test (for an all knowing God) that achieved the only result of scaring a poor child (who would probably be removed from dad and sent to social services today).
Ciao
- viole
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Keep thinking on this.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
In either case.
McBell
Unbound
No.
Now if you would be so kind as to explain the relevance.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Can a rock deceive you?
McBell
Unbound
I will.
Unless you can present something to show your claim is something, anything, other than bold and empty.
McBell
Unbound
I am not interested in this baby step crap.
Rocks cannot lie because they cannot deceive.
cambridge79
Active Member
can a rock write a book and ask you to worship her?
McBell
Unbound
Ignorance or dishonesty?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
They do. Lies are based on truths. But since we can never really see or understand the full truth, we're always living in a lie. Our sensory and subjective view of the world is just an interpretation of what we experience, not what the real things are. And if that is to be the image of God, well, then we can make some inferences regarding God.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Is pyrite called 'fools gold'?
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Understanding of all things = knowledge of all things.
Sleeppy
Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Have we studied and written books concerning rocks?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
It can lie in front of you.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Is it being dis-igneous?Granite is very old and notoriously dishonest.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Peace be on you.
God was serious.
It was symbolic massage.
Hazrat Ibrahim (a.s.) had already fullfiled it by leaving the son and wife in wilderness. That is why it was said:
[37:106] ‘Thou hast indeed fulfilled the dream.’ Thus indeed do We reward those who do good.
Please see note 3338
Ref:http://www.alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=2230®ion=E1&CR=EN,E2
It is somewhat like اقتلوا انفسكم (lit: Kill yourself) but it means Kill your mean desires.
So Allah the Exalted was serious and Hazrat Ibrahim a.s did not lie, since he was very highly obedient, he inclined toward literal meaning which he was promptly stopped to act upon.
Abraham was going to kill his son as God ordered, why God changed his mind if he was serious ?
I didn't say Abraham was lying, Abraham believed God and he was going to kill his own Son,right .
McBell
Unbound
it is not the pyrite that is doing the deceiving....
But you already know that.
If this childish personification is the best you got, you got nothing.
McBell
Unbound
yet mere knowledge does not equate understanding.
if you meant understanding when you said knowledge, all you need do is say so.