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I Believe That I've Found A Group Of Like Minded.

I Believe That I've Found A Group Of Like Minded. It's called; American Ethical Union. I wanted to feel associated with Humanism but couldn't due to strong Atheist principals. But this follows Humanism but still clearly follows my need to accept even people who feel religious.
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Ethical Humanism
What is Ethical Humanism?
Ethical Humanism, also called Ethical Culture, is an evolving body of ideas that inspires Ethical Societies. Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good of humanity (Humanist Manifesto III). For Ethical Humanists, the ultimate religious questions are not about the existence of gods or an afterlife, but rather, “How can we create meaningfulness in this life?” and “How should we treat each other?”

Ethical Humanism is clear about the essential role that ethical principles play in human relationships. Despite how uncertain we might feel about our personal standards—or how best to apply them—for an Ethical Humanist, there are unquestionably acts that are good and evil, right and wrong. In order for human beings to have good lives, love must prevail, truth must be respected, honesty esteemed, justice secured, and freedom protected. Learning how to realize these ideals in personal and political relationships is the purpose of Ethical Societies.

How is Ethical Humanism religious?
Ethical Societies serve as religious congregations in which members can build a community of friends, find inspiration and purpose, provide moral education for their children, celebrate seasons and life events, and clarify their world views. Professional Ethical Culture Leaders fill the roles of religious clergy, including meeting the pastoral needs of members, performing ceremonies, and serving as spokespeople for the congregation.

Does Ethical Humanism have a creed?
No. We are not bound by any community creed or dogma. Rather, Ethical Societies emphasize the importance of developing a clear personal philosophy that makes your life understandable and meaningful. Learning to benefit from a diversity of viewpoints is one of our challenges. Members encourage each other to think freely and to disagree without being disagreeable. We do agree on “Deed before creed,” sometimes expressed as “Diversity in the creed, unanimity in the deed.”

What beliefs do Ethical Societies teach?
  • Freedom of Belief: When we stimulate our thinking with new insights and inspirations, our understanding of the world evolves, and we realize the full capacity of our human spirit.
  • Eliciting the Best: It is by acting in a way that encourages the finest characteristics in others that we bring out the best in ourselves.
  • Respect for Human Worth: We treat all people as having an inherent capacity for fairness, kindness, and living ethically.
  • Ethical Living: When we put into practice ethical principles such as love, justice, honesty, and forgiveness, we experience harmony within ourselves and in our relationships.
  • Reverence for Life: We cultivate the spiritual dimension in life by experiencing our interdependent connections to humanity, nature, and our inner values.
What does ethics mean?
Ethics defines the elements essential to human well-being and proposes guiding principles to generate an ethical culture. Ethics also refers to the specific values, standards, rules, and agreements that people adopt for conducting their lives. Ethics, most broadly, is the study of human behavior and its consequences in the light of what is ideally possible. For example, ethicists might study a society’s mores or morals to determine what effect they would have on humankind if they were used as universal standards. Ethics are not merely social conventions, like table manners. Rather, ethics define the social conditions necessary for human beings to thrive.

What are some principles of an Ethical Society?
The Eight Commitments of Ethical Culture were written in collaboration with Leaders and members of the American Ethical Union, coordinated by Lois Kathleen Kellerman, Leader Emeritus of the Brooklyn Society for Ethical Culture.

  1. Ethics is Central: The most central human issue in our lives is creating a more humane environment.
  2. Ethics Begins with Choice: Creating a more humane environment begins by affirming the need to make significant choices in our lives.
  3. We Choose to Treat Each Other as Ends, not Means:
    To enable us to be whole in a fragmented world, we choose to treat each other as unique individuals having intrinsic worth.
  4. We Seek to Act with Integrity: Treating one another as ends requires that we learn to act with integrity. This includes keeping commitments, and being honest, open, caring and responsive.
  5. We are Committed to Educate Ourselves: Personal progress is possible, both in wisdom and social life. Learning how to build ethical relationships and cultivate a humane community is a life-long endeavor.
  6. Self Reflection and Our Social Nature Require Us to Shape a More Humane World: Growth of the human spirit is rooted in self-reflection, but can only come to full flower in community. This is because people are social, needing both primary relationships and larger supportive groups to become fully human. Our social nature requires that we reach beyond ourselves to decrease suffering and increase creativity in the world.
  7. Democratic Process is Essential to Our Task: The democratic process is essential to a humane social order because respect for the worth of persons requires democratic process, which elicits and allows a greater expression of human capacities.
  8. Life Itself Inspires a Natural “Religious” Response: Although awareness of impending death intensifies the human quest, the mystery of life itself, and the need to belong, are the primary factors motivating human religious response.
 

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
What's a atheist principle? I still think you dont know enough or you would be religous. Knowledge doesn't require science just like God.
 
Notice I didn't say that "none of them do". Cyrus was a Zoroastrian and Zoroastrianism has similarities with Abrahamic religions. He was also referred to as "messiah" in the Hebrew Bible. It's possible he was influenced by Judaism due to cultural exposure.

The dance begins!
You said, "The concept of humans having inherent rights stems from Jewish and Christian theology and philosophy, and that laid the foundation for the concept of human rights."

"Stems from" and "foundation" are firm statements not lending themselves to interpretation.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Most don't. The concept of humans having inherent rights stems from Jewish and Christian theology and philosophy, and that laid the foundation for the concept of human rights.
With respect, the concept of humans having inherent rights comes into Western thought, and Christianity, from the Greeks in particular. Their democracy excluded slaves and foreigners and peasants and more, but it contained the idea of self-rule as distinct from biblical kingship and rendering unto Caesar.

As well as politics, and a desire to explain the world through reasoned thought / philosophy rather than theology, the Greeks also provided us with the seeds of maths, empirical science, architecture, poetry and drama, history and historiography, painting and sculpture, medicine, and much more.

Humanism emerges from the Enlightenment, where the role of Classical thought was notably important.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
With respect, the concept of humans having inherent rights comes into Western thought, and Christianity, from the Greeks in particular. Their democracy excluded slaves and foreigners and peasants and more, but it contained the idea of self-rule as distinct from biblical kingship and rendering unto Caesar.

As well as politics, and a desire to explain the world through reasoned thought / philosophy rather than theology, the Greeks also provided us with the seeds of maths, empirical science, architecture, poetry and drama, history and historiography, painting and sculpture, medicine, and much more.

Humanism emerges from the Enlightenment, where the role of Classical thought was notably important.
I'm talking about religion, not philosophy. Greco-Roman paganism does not contain the idea of inherent human rights. When that idea entered Greek philosophy, polytheism was on the wane and Zeus was gradually being transformed into a universal father figure like Yahweh, who cared about the weak and oppressed, and not the petty, vindictive being we find in the Homeric myths.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Most don't. The concept of humans having inherent rights stems from Jewish and Christian theology and philosophy, and that laid the foundation for the concept of human rights.
Personally I don’t know enough of the history of where human rights came from in its infancy to make a judgment call on the truth of what you are saying here.

However just because Christianity may have fostered human rights concepts in their infancy stages does not mean that it has had a trouble free relationship with human rights as they developed further.

Ultimately what this means to me is that we need a liberal approach to religions if we are to follow religions at all in our quest for human rights to ensure we don’t oppose modern developments to human rights in the name of tradition.
 
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