Hume

[Luminous]

He’s said to be a Christian, I don’t think that faith offers the kind of moral guidance and discipline that is offered by the Muslim faith so… my message to Brit would be: "Brit, turn you faith… return to the Muslim faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the Middle East."

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johnolympia007
Brit Hume is truly a courageous christian to make the statement he did in spite of all the negative feedback. God bless Mr Hume

BarbarraBay

Hume has displayed ignorance and the feedback is not negative but factual. For example, I personally know what Christianity offers and what it teaches. I could preach Christianity, whatever version, until the cows come home. But Hume is ignorant of Buddhism. As such, he is a poor example because he speaks about things with knowledge. In short, he gives false testimony.

shueevon
BarbarraBay, with respect, your testimony is false as well. Grace (undeserved love) comes from God, not from a "greater self". You claim to know the Christian Faith and have quoted the Bible in several of your posts. Please allow me to offer a Bible quote to you: John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Hume was being polite; the truth is that Christianity is the one true path... all other religions are false.

goog2k
shueevon, if you and Brit Hume want to believe in a fairy tale big daddy up in the sky you have every right.
Just don't keep laying your silly superstitions on everyone else. And don't keep telling us your fairy tale is "better" or the "true way!"
That's the point.
When you do that you're no better than the TALIBAN who keep saying we need to follow them because THEY have the "only true way."

BarbarraBay
Shueevon. The Buddha also said his way was the only way but did not say his religion was the only true religion. The Buddha said his path was the only way for the PURIFICATION of beings. But about other religions, he taught they a necessary since all people cannot follow his path. I do not expect you do take an interest in what I am about to say but when 'self-view' remains in a human mind (& the need for forgiveness) it still remains impure. Forgiveness is a mundane teaching for worldy people.

BarbarraBay
Buddhism teaches two kinds of doctrine. Mundane (worldly) & transendant. Forgiveness is a mundane doctrine for worldly unenlightened people. Your book says: "God loved the world & sent his only son to die for them". Tibetan Buddhism includes mundane teachings with deities (angels) whose primary purpose is to forgive people of their bad karma. If people can feel forgiven that is good. But never say Christianity is the only path. Christ came for the sick, sinners & sheep (not for the enlightened).

dalmatian847
The Four Noble Truths are beliefs that underly most of Buddhist epistemology. They are:
1. The nature of suffering: Birth, aging, illness and death are suffering, as is attachment and aversion.
2. The origin of suffering: craving for things we think will bring us pleasure.
3.The cessation of suffering: freedom from attachment and aversion.
4. The way leading to the cessation of suffering:
Did I miss the part on forgiveness , the Hume displayed "ignorance" about? NOT THERE.

LuminousTruth
you stereotype buddhism. u are not buddhist and yes some buddhists have concepts of wrong doing and redemption. you can feel all faultless with buddhism just as with hypocritical christianity. religion is religion.

dalmatian847
These were posted from a Buddhist Webste.
How am I sterotyping Buddhism? Here are the 4 tenats of Buddhism. You will not FORGIVENESS is not one of them, nor is it explicitely mentioned in the 4 tenets that make up the faith.
It's you that seems to have the issues with stereotyping. How would you know I'm not a Buddhism, are you a Christian? Does not being a Christian somehow void your opinion?

BarbarraBay
Dalmatian. It is not wise to try censure and criticise the teachings of the Buddha. When you have read & understood the entirety of the Buddhist scriptures (as I have studied & understood the Bible) then you may comment. Whilst not salient, the Buddhist teachings also include FAITH TEACHINGS. For those who where not monks or serious practitioners and simply FAITH-FOLLOWERS, the Buddha taught: "Those who love me, those who simply have faith in me, are destined for heaven".

dalmatian847
I've done neither Barbara, only stated the truth.
The is no specific tenet in Buddism that deals with FORGIVENESS.
You claim this is innaccurate yet provide zero evidence to prove your point. Therefore I will not accept your point.
All your incessant babblings have done nothing to address this question.
Where is FORGIVENESS written into Buddhist tenets?

BarbarraBay
Dalmatian. Let us have right understanding. The Buddha advised the nature of suffering is attachment. The origin of suffering is craving for pleasure, craving to be & craving not to be. The rest you got right. Giving birth, illness, aging & death are experiences that people ignorantly regard as suffering. Buddha said it is actually the attachment to birth, aging, illness & death that bring suffering. For example, Jesus promises Eternal Life. This frees people from attachment to death.

dalmatian847
Barbara, the only understand we can have is this.
Does Buddhism specifically address FORGIVENESS in it's teachings.
That answer is no,
All your comparisons and contrasts to Jesus and Buddha fail to disprove this fact.
That's all Hume said, that's all I'm saying.
Your pointess rhetoric that does everything but answers the question that you truthfully cannot deny is factual really is getting boring.

BarbarraBay
Dalmatian. The Buddha taught 84,000 teachings. The Four Noble Truths is just one teaching. Try google the Four Brahma Vihara or the Angulimala Sutta. The Four Noble Truths is a supramundane teaching where as forgiveness is a mundane teaching for the world. As your book said: "God loved the world and sent his son to die for them". Supramundane teachings free the mind of 'self-view'. When a mind is free from 'self-view', it does not need forgiveness. Carry your cross & forget self or be a sheep.

dalmatian847
Which one of those 84,000 addresses FORGIVENESS specifically Barbara?
Why don't you Google that and get back to me.
ZZZZZZZZZZZ, you are really boring me, Barbara.

BarbarraBay
I advised you. Google 'Angulimala Sutta'. Trust.

dalmatian847
I googled the four tenets of Buddhism Barbara, I'm not wasting anymore of my time on this.
It wasn't there Barbara, you know that as well as I do.

the talk goes on and on. what is everyone's thought on the subject?