1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Humanly possible ways to see higher worlds

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by WisdomAddict, Jan 22, 2022.

  1. WisdomAddict

    WisdomAddict Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2021
    Messages:
    87
    Ratings:
    +34
    Religion:
    Omnism
    Is there any Humanly possible ways to see higher worlds?
    We are limited in 5sense 3D reality...
    There is no doubt on that...
    I had some strange dreams about other realities
    That it was a musical magical realm...only on sober dreaming at night...
    That is completely unexpressive with words...

    I had also psychedelic experiments to reaching doorways or gates out of this realm...
    Last time (few months ago ) i had an experince
    i saw an experiment that in complete darkness of void a hidden hand came out of a aslo golden lightcloud like object (as in occult symbols) and had held of a human hand trying to bring him out out of 3D realm...

    How can i do such things? Traveling through realms?
    Any meditation or rituals suggest ?
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2014
    Messages:
    69,415
    Ratings:
    +34,872
    Religion:
    Love/Omnism
    People can travel the spiritual path "under a veil" which means they don't see. Or they can travel with "open eyes" which means sight.

    My experience is that this is an illusion and not real. Drugs are a trap.

    Some teachers have believed that experiences are helpful in motivating people. I don't know of any currently.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  3. WisdomAddict

    WisdomAddict Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2021
    Messages:
    87
    Ratings:
    +34
    Religion:
    Omnism
    Maybe the teachings are secret
    Like many other things only few have access to that knowledge.
     
  4. WisdomAddict

    WisdomAddict Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2021
    Messages:
    87
    Ratings:
    +34
    Religion:
    Omnism
    Thanks for replying...

    There is no illusion than this limited realm...

    For me experiment with drugs was completley 'unillusionary' and even visionary and helped me a alot on my spiritual growth...and even led me to enlightenment...
    I use them
    Not to escape for reality but to find it,
    Decoding its depth and secrets..
    Honestly
    I dont want to orbit this topic around drugs
    And case by case for any person is different...
    Thats not the point of my current post...
    And im looking for answer for my actual subject that i mentioned...
     
  5. Aštra’el

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,812
    Ratings:
    +1,206
    EA25594C-53FB-43C1-BFD6-3A5D5DE90A97.png If we created Mario to be self aware, how would he be able to truly “see” and experience our world? As in, the real world, outside the Mushroom Kingdom.

    To answer both our questions, I think it would take either-

    1) “Divine” intervention.

    A creature from beyond the simulated world- such as its creator(s)- grants someone the means to see beyond the simulation or even escape it, and provides a way to experience what lies beyond. For example, consciousness is transferred from a vessel within the simulated world into a vessel in the real world, whether organic or synthetic. Mario’s memories of who he was in the Mushroom Kingdom are transferred by a group of humans into a body residing in our world, such a human being or an android. He wakes up and is now able to experience our world.

    2) Significant enough technological advancement that the means to escape this reality are discovered.

    Self-aware Mario becomes a terrifyingly powerful AI seeking to break free of the shackles of the Mushroom Kingdom. He manages to upload “himself” from the console onto the internet, and can now access a multitude of synthetic platforms and devices to experience our world. He could even have a body built for him- or many bodies- which he can then operate remotely.


    All this, assuming of course that this world is not “base reality”.

    So in summary... get the Supreme Architect(s) of the Universe to aid in your escape plan, or, become an all-powerful AI capable of uploading yourself into whatever reality it was that gave birth to this world.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. syo

    syo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2016
    Messages:
    4,702
    Ratings:
    +1,500
    Religion:
    pagan, omni, anarchy, nihil, and born again christian orthodox
    Only if something of the higher world contacts you.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. WisdomAddict

    WisdomAddict Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2021
    Messages:
    87
    Ratings:
    +34
    Religion:
    Omnism
    Very well said,
    Thats is what theory i had...
     
  8. WisdomAddict

    WisdomAddict Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2021
    Messages:
    87
    Ratings:
    +34
    Religion:
    Omnism
    So its possible...
     
  9. WisdomAddict

    WisdomAddict Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2021
    Messages:
    87
    Ratings:
    +34
    Religion:
    Omnism
    Thanks to you all ,

    Need more of your thoughts on this
     
  10. syo

    syo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 27, 2016
    Messages:
    4,702
    Ratings:
    +1,500
    Religion:
    pagan, omni, anarchy, nihil, and born again christian orthodox
    Yup. But the opposite. The higher realm being will reach for you. Then you'll experience the realm within our realm.
     
  11. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2009
    Messages:
    42,686
    Ratings:
    +18,814
    Religion:
    Philosophical Buddhism
    It's a nice thought, but we are limited by our senses although I suspect there is much more to things that go well past those limits.

    I think maybe we can someday, find at least a way to go past that barrier a little bit.
     
  12. ben d

    ben d Dhyani

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,151
    Ratings:
    +1,341
    Religion:
    Panentheism
    Just a few comments.
    The problem with the psychedelic experiences is that the principle of karma is universal, cause and effect is a seamless multidimensional movement, and therefore causes will be set in motion that may prevent an otherwise earlier realization of the underlying unity of all there is, divine bliss and peace The hidden hand coming out of the dark void tells you that a higher reality exists that you were unaware of.

    So the important thing to realize is what and who are you in the greater scheme of existence. Let's say you are presently self identified with the body, your awareness then will be limited to a 3D-like perception of your higher experiences which are not 3D. So one must transcend self identification with the ego mind, and Self identify with the oob state through some efficacious spiritual practice. The development of a self awareness that is not 3D, not dependent on the body take much time, much practice, and suffering a sort of psychological death of the ego as the self identity transitions from being body centered to a sort of omnipresent awareness state.
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
  13. ben d

    ben d Dhyani

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,151
    Ratings:
    +1,341
    Religion:
    Panentheism
    If you die before you die, when you die, you do not die. :)
     
  14. RestlessSoul

    RestlessSoul Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2021
    Messages:
    4,250
    Ratings:
    +3,441
    Religion:
    Agnostic Lapsed Catholic
    ‘Toshimoto took out of his robe a scroll of paper and, after wiping his neck with it, spread it out and wrote his death poem:

    From ancient times the saying comes,
    “There is no death; there is no life.”
    Indeed, the skies are cloudless
    And the river waters clear.

    Toshimoto then laid down his brush and smoothed his hair with his hand. At that very moment, the blade of the sword flashed behind him; his head fell forward and his body followed, covering the head.’

    From the Taiheki (Chronicle of Grand Pacification), 14th Century Japan
     
Loading...