djhwoodwerks
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I think that would be safe to believe.
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How God is not loving
- Thread starter The Transcended Omniverse
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I think that would be safe to believe.
Safe? No climbing up the sides of cliffs for you! What about those birds up there? Would they never have been observed if not for sin?
djhwoodwerks
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No, I don't believe Jesus is "going to do the work" to heal us, He has 'already done the work' to heal us.
When you go to the doctor for something, you believe that doctor can heal you right? Is it then "you" (your faith that the doctor can cure you) that heals you or is it the doctor that heals you?
djhwoodwerks
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I'm sorry, I don't understand that at all!
Ephesians 4:10 The one having descended (Jesus) is the same also as has ascended above all the heavens so he might fill all things
Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some indeed apostles (those sent forth of God - Jesus was one sent forth of God)
indeed prophets (Jesus was a prophet)
now evangelists (Jesus went from town to town)
some now shepherds (Jesus is also)
and teachers (Jesus is the great teacher)
There is no subcategory for healing. Why not? Because healing went the way of the dinosaurs or because it is the job of ALL to heal?
Love causes healing.
Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some indeed apostles (those sent forth of God - Jesus was one sent forth of God)
indeed prophets (Jesus was a prophet)
now evangelists (Jesus went from town to town)
some now shepherds (Jesus is also)
and teachers (Jesus is the great teacher)
There is no subcategory for healing. Why not? Because healing went the way of the dinosaurs or because it is the job of ALL to heal?
Love causes healing.
You don't have to tell me that.
djhwoodwerks
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Matthew 9:35 (ESV Strong's) 35 And Jesus went throughout all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction.
djhwoodwerks
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So do words,
Proverbs 4:20-22 (ESV Strong's) 20 My son, be attentive to my words; incline your ear to my sayings. 21 Let them not escape from your sight; keep them within your heart. 22 For they are life to those who find them, and healing to all their flesh.
Proverbs 16:24 (ESV Strong's) 24 Gracious words are like a honeycomb, sweetness to the soul and health to the body.
djhwoodwerks
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You don't have to tell me that.
I do if I want to understand!
Yes, Please ask God for better attention. I was talking about the gifts in men.
djhwoodwerks
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I don't know about that, I love my mom, but she died of cancer. How many "loved" ones die or get sick?
Do you? Or do you want something more to contest?
If a person climbs the sides of things like people like to do someone someday will fall. Gravity rules. When she falls, will she not break anything?
djhwoodwerks
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Being loved is not what heals. God is love. God knows how to heal a person. Correct? It takes faith in God to be healed and the desire to be healed.
No doubt can exist in it.
Good question! YOU say Jesus was called a healer. All the gifts in men Jesus also was like those, but there are no healers mentioned.
djhwoodwerks
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djhwoodwerks
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People climb up rock faces to observe the nesting places of birds. To climb a rock face risked falling. Falling causes broken bones.
Being loved does not cause healing, but yes, love heals. There must exist harmony between the healer, God and the one needing healing.
If the one needing healing doubts God, love can't heal that person who doubts.
djhwoodwerks
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Come on now, if "being loved" doesn't heal, what love heals?