One thing I noticed about westerners and abrahamics is their very quick label of Hindus as "pantheists" (vast majority of Hindus are Monists/Panentheists, who believe in a Creator, yet also that the nature of the created is also Divine, and that God is All-Inclusive). Sometimes, or actually quite often, they go "haha those silly Hindus believe everything is God, cow is God, dog is God, idol is God and all unclean things are God". Which is ironic as all christians and jews believe that God is omnipresent and so do many muslims.
The root of the reasoning of Hindu Monism is this;
Every object in our surrounding has a creator/cause, just as a table has a carpenter and a pot has a potter. So this world must also have a creator. A carpenter uses wood as the raw material to make a table and the potter uses clay to make a pot. So, what did the great creator, whom we call god, use as a raw material?
If there is a raw material, then the question will arise as to who made this raw material and whether this creator is greater than that one. To circumvent this it is postulated that God did not make use of any external material but transformed himself as the universe. So whatever is, is nothing other than God. Only those who think deeply can realize this. Others are deluded by illusion and do not see the unity hidden in objects of various forms and names.
Another reasoning I read from another forum;
If God creates everything out of nothing, then he must have destroyed the perfect nothingness that was before He created the everything.
And if nothing existed before everything, why was nothing nothing initially? Was nothingness being nothing without everything a state that was beyond God?(Just as a man finds an empty room and then put things inside of it because naturally one does not find rooms full with objects of desire) Since this nothingness being nothing without everything was a reality that God was helpless to and only subseqently He decided to create everything out of that nothing, was God stuck with laws beyond Him?
Some atheistic questions to the mix as well;
If God was so great, what impulse made Him create the universe? In the beginning only God existed, if naturally God was all that was, Him alone by Himself, what would make Him want to spoil that? Did He lack contentment and peace, and the act of creation brought Him something which he felt better after doing, or it was born out of a necessary urge to act. That is He was somehow compelled to create. I mean God cant act without a reason, right? Otherwise He would be a senseless being.
Did He need assurance of His glory from an external being to extol His worth? That seems more like slander to say that of God.
If you(Christians) tell its so that He gets worship, then its absurd because generally we feel the most praise from not those who are lesser than us but greater. For example if you had to choose between either who would you prefer appreciating you? God or some creature?
The root of the reasoning of Hindu Monism is this;
Every object in our surrounding has a creator/cause, just as a table has a carpenter and a pot has a potter. So this world must also have a creator. A carpenter uses wood as the raw material to make a table and the potter uses clay to make a pot. So, what did the great creator, whom we call god, use as a raw material?
If there is a raw material, then the question will arise as to who made this raw material and whether this creator is greater than that one. To circumvent this it is postulated that God did not make use of any external material but transformed himself as the universe. So whatever is, is nothing other than God. Only those who think deeply can realize this. Others are deluded by illusion and do not see the unity hidden in objects of various forms and names.
Another reasoning I read from another forum;
If God creates everything out of nothing, then he must have destroyed the perfect nothingness that was before He created the everything.
And if nothing existed before everything, why was nothing nothing initially? Was nothingness being nothing without everything a state that was beyond God?(Just as a man finds an empty room and then put things inside of it because naturally one does not find rooms full with objects of desire) Since this nothingness being nothing without everything was a reality that God was helpless to and only subseqently He decided to create everything out of that nothing, was God stuck with laws beyond Him?
Some atheistic questions to the mix as well;
If God was so great, what impulse made Him create the universe? In the beginning only God existed, if naturally God was all that was, Him alone by Himself, what would make Him want to spoil that? Did He lack contentment and peace, and the act of creation brought Him something which he felt better after doing, or it was born out of a necessary urge to act. That is He was somehow compelled to create. I mean God cant act without a reason, right? Otherwise He would be a senseless being.
Did He need assurance of His glory from an external being to extol His worth? That seems more like slander to say that of God.
If you(Christians) tell its so that He gets worship, then its absurd because generally we feel the most praise from not those who are lesser than us but greater. For example if you had to choose between either who would you prefer appreciating you? God or some creature?
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