God created RF

[Bedlam]

Yes, but I think they have a function beyond childhood mythology. It's why we still have superheroes and stories into adulthood.

I think God goes beyond a simple creation mythology. The Gods are very much like the superheroes I previously mentioned; they represent pieces of ourselves that feel larger than life.

The loving benevolent God seems to represent the attainability of self-love, for example. From William Blatty's The Exorcist:

"...the demon's target is not the possessed; it is us...to make us despair; to reject our own humanity, Damien: to see ourselves as ultimately bestial...I think the belief in God is not a matter of reason at all; I think it is a matter of love; of accepting the possibility that God could love us.""...the demon's target is not the possessed; it is us...to make us despair; to reject our own humanity, Damien: to see ourselves as ultimately bestial...I think the belief in God is not a matter of reason at all; I think it is a matter of love; of accepting the possibility that God could love us."

They also speak to our wonder of simply being alive; an experience that nothing can ever explain except in abstract, metaphorical, poetic terms.

Jehovah as a poetic metaphor for the difficulty of loving oneself? I may be a crazy person, but that's a concept I can get behind.

Now if only everyone could see it that way, instead of personifying the metaphor and using it for hatred and bigamy.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Indirectly God did create this forum. Even if it was just the idea of God. Amazing how powerful just the idea of God can be.:jester5:

More akin to humans attributing a god to that which is really just an extension of themselves.
-NM-

 

[ChristineES]

Yes, it speaks to our pattern-seeking, superstitious minds.

Very superstitious, writing's on the wall.
Very superstitious, ladder's 'bout to fall.
Thirteen-month-old baby broke the looking glass.
Seven years of bad luck, the good things in your past.
When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer.
Superstition ain't the way.
Hey, hey, hey.
Ooh, very superstitious, wash your face and hands.
Rid me of the problem, do all that you can.
Keep me in a daydream, keep me goin' strong.
You don't wanna save me, sad is my song.
When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer.
Superstition ain't the way.
Hey, hey, hey.
Very superstitious, nothing more to say.
Very superstitious, the devil's on his way.
Thirteen-month-old baby broke the looking glass.
Seven years of bad luck, the good things in your past.
When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer.
Superstition ain't the way.
Hey, hey, hey.
Very superstitious.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Indirectly God did create this forum. Even if it was just the idea of God. Amazing how powerful just the idea of God can be.:jester5:

If God indirectly created this forum, then he also indirectly founded the Nazi party, kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, broke up the Beatles, and made my bread go moldy.

 

[Cordoba]

If God indirectly created this forum, then he also indirectly founded the Nazi party, kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, broke up the Beatles, and made my bread go moldy.

God gave humanity free will, ad it's we who choose what to do with it

Some use their free will to create useful discussion forums, others use their freedom to rob a bank

Each individual will be held accountable of their deeds and how they used their free will ....

Makes sense?

 

[JMorris]

God gave humanity free will, ad it's we who choose what to do with it

Some use their free will to create useful discussion forums, others use their freedom to rob a bank

Each individual will be held accountable of their deeds and how they used their free will ....

Makes sense?

no, because an omniscient god cant grant free will. omniscience negates free will

make sense?

 

[Cordoba]

There is no contradiction, Morris

When you give your teenager son pocket money,there is always a risk that he will use it to buy cigarettes, or something harmful

Does that make you not give him pocket money?

Part of growing up is acting in a responsible way, and learning from past mistakes

So going back to the main topic, yes God indirectly created this forum by giving the founders technical knowledge, resources and free will

Could they not have used their knowledge, resources and free will for another purpose?

 

[JMorris]

There is no contradiction, Morris

When you give your teenager son pocket money,there is always a risk that he will use it to buy cigarettes, or something harmful

Does that make you not give him pocket money?

Part of growing up is acting in a responsible way, and learning from past mistakes

So going back to the main topic, yes God indirectly created this forum by giving the founders technical knowledge, resources and free will

Could they not have used their knowledge, resources and free will for another purpose?

go to the thread "Can you do anything god dosent already know?" if you want to debate omniscience and free will, lets not derail this thread

 

[McBell]

So going back to the main topic, yes God indirectly created this forum by giving the founders technical knowledge, resources and free will

Then God also indirectly created the atomic bomb, the guillotine, the explosives used by suicide bombers, etc

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

God gave humanity free will, ad it's we who choose what to do with it

Some use their free will to create useful discussion forums, others use their freedom to rob a bank

Each individual will be held accountable of their deeds and how they used their free will ....

Makes sense?

Sure. And that's consistent. My point was that if you want to give God the credit for humanity's acheivements, then blame for humanity's atrocities comes with it as well. I certainly agree that one viewpoint that works is to not assign blame or credit for human actions to God at all... I was just hinting at the full consequence of the claims that the OP was making.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Jehovah as a poetic metaphor for the difficulty of loving oneself? I may be a crazy person, but that's a concept I can get behind.

Now if only everyone could see it that way, instead of personifying the metaphor and using it for hatred and bigamy.

I can agree with that!

 

[cardero]

Indirectly God did create this forum. Even if it was just the idea of God. Amazing how powerful just the idea of God can be.:jester5:

He can have RF. I still own and reserve the copyrights to The Mod Squad and RFfiliates universe. If God needs to use, print or reproduce any aspects of these comics He has to go through my lawyer.

 

[rojse]

...Perhaps I'm also a member of forums discussing the existence of unicorns...

The Invisible Pink Unicorn forum?

 

[rojse]

If God indirectly created this forum, then he also indirectly founded the Nazi party, kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, broke up the Beatles, and made my bread go moldy.

He made your bread go mouldy?!

 

[Falvlun]

no, because an omniscient god cant grant free will. omniscience negates free will

make sense?

Boo! I like how you are so confident in this thread, but couldn't answer my objections in the other.

 

[JamBar85]

Indirectly God did create this forum. Even if it was just the idea of God. Amazing how powerful just the idea of God can be.:jester5:

Did he? Did he really? Or are you just being silly? I think you're just being silly. Look. You've even put a silly smiley up to show you're being silly.