Genes, Self-Awareness, Neanderthals

[The Hammer]

Genes Linked to Self-Awareness in Modern Humans Were Less Common in Neandertals

"Findings published in 2019 have tied the learning and memory necessary for creative thought to three brain networks. These networks, which govern our emotional reactions, self-control and self-awareness, are associated with a suite of 972 genes identified in those studies. The same research group has now compared these genes among chimps, Neandertals and modern humans. Across all three species, the results show an overlap in emotional reactivity but a divergence in genetic sequences governing self-control and self-awareness. In a paper published on April 21 in Molecular Psychiatry, C. Robert Cloninger, a psychiatrist and geneticist at Washington University in St. Louis, and his colleagues report that modern humans also have a set of 267 genes from the larger set that the other two species lack. Most of these sequences are devoted to regulating genes in the self-awareness network."

 

[MatthewA]

What are Neanderthals?

 

[VoidCat]

What are Neandertals?

Neanderthal - Wikipedia

Neanderthals (/niˈændərtɑːl, neɪ-, -θɔːl/,[7] also Neandertals, Homo neanderthalensis or Homo sapiens neanderthalensis)[8] are an extinct species or subspecies of archaic humans who lived in Eurasia until about 40,000 years ago.[9][10][11][12] They most likely went extinct due to assimilation into the modern human genome (bred into extinction),[13] great climatic change,[14][15][16] disease,[17][18] or a combination of these factors.[16] They were fully replaced by early European modern humans.

 

[King Phenomenon]

Genes Linked to Self-Awareness in Modern Humans Were Less Common in Neandertals

"Findings published in 2019 have tied the learning and memory necessary for creative thought to three brain networks. These networks, which govern our emotional reactions, self-control and self-awareness, are associated with a suite of 972 genes identified in those studies. The same research group has now compared these genes among chimps, Neandertals and modern humans. Across all three species, the results show an overlap in emotional reactivity but a divergence in genetic sequences governing self-control and self-awareness. In a paper published on April 21 in Molecular Psychiatry, C. Robert Cloninger, a psychiatrist and geneticist at Washington University in St. Louis, and his colleagues report that modern humans also have a set of 267 genes from the larger set that the other two species lack. Most of these sequences are devoted to regulating genes in the self-awareness network."

I could’ve told u that
You Can you tell by looking at them they weren’t all there
Lol

 

[The Hammer]

I could’ve told u that
Can you tell by looking at them they weren’t all there
Lol

Would have fooled me from what I've studied. .

Not as intellectually complex as us, no, but by no means "simpletons" either.

 

[King Phenomenon]

Would have fooled me from what I've studied. .

Not as intellectually complex as us, no, but by no means "simpletons" either.

I wouldnt want to get chummy with one

 

[The Hammer]

I wouldnt want to get chummy with one

Just another way we differ. To sit down and interact with one would be extraordinary, IMO. So much we could learn.

 

[King Phenomenon]

Just another way we differ. To sit down and interact with one would be extraordinary, IMO. So much we could learn.

I’m sure he/she would give you a big old hug

 

[King Phenomenon]

Just another way we differ. To sit down and interact with one would be extraordinary, IMO. So much we could learn.

In all seriousness it would be a trip though

 

[We Never Know]

Genes Linked to Self-Awareness in Modern Humans Were Less Common in Neandertals

"Findings published in 2019 have tied the learning and memory necessary for creative thought to three brain networks. These networks, which govern our emotional reactions, self-control and self-awareness, are associated with a suite of 972 genes identified in those studies. The same research group has now compared these genes among chimps, Neandertals and modern humans. Across all three species, the results show an overlap in emotional reactivity but a divergence in genetic sequences governing self-control and self-awareness. In a paper published on April 21 in Molecular Psychiatry, C. Robert Cloninger, a psychiatrist and geneticist at Washington University in St. Louis, and his colleagues report that modern humans also have a set of 267 genes from the larger set that the other two species lack. Most of these sequences are devoted to regulating genes in the self-awareness network."

So neanderthals still exist today

 

[Bear Wild]

Genes Linked to Self-Awareness in Modern Humans Were Less Common in Neandertals

"Findings published in 2019 have tied the learning and memory necessary for creative thought to three brain networks. These networks, which govern our emotional reactions, self-control and self-awareness, are associated with a suite of 972 genes identified in those studies. The same research group has now compared these genes among chimps, Neandertals and modern humans. Across all three species, the results show an overlap in emotional reactivity but a divergence in genetic sequences governing self-control and self-awareness. In a paper published on April 21 in Molecular Psychiatry, C. Robert Cloninger, a psychiatrist and geneticist at Washington University in St. Louis, and his colleagues report that modern humans also have a set of 267 genes from the larger set that the other two species lack. Most of these sequences are devoted to regulating genes in the self-awareness network."

So how did they measure self-awareness in Neandertals?

 

[Heyo]

I wouldnt want to get chummy with one

Not all homo sapiens were that selective, we have some genetic markers to show for that.

 

[darkskies]

So how did they measure self-awareness in Neandertals?

Evolution of genetic networks for human creativity | Molecular Psychiatry

Neanderthal orthologs of the 972 genes related to personality in Sapiens were identified in annotated data of the Neanderthal Genome Project [88]. The replicability of these findings was then evaluated in separate analyses of the high-coverage genomes of the Altai Neanderthal [88], another Neanderthal from the Vindija cave [89] (specimen 33.19, Index of /neandertal/Vindija), and a third from the Chagyrskaya cave [90] (Index of /neandertal/Chagyrskaya). These analyses enabled us to identify genes that chimpanzees and/or Neanderthals shared with modern humans from those that were only found in modern humans (Supplementary Table S5) and then to compare their characteristics (Supplementary Tables S6 and S7).

Hope this helps. The genes identified were specialised for self-awareness afaik.

 

[ChristineM]

I could’ve told u that
You Can you tell by looking at them they weren’t all there
Lol

Seems to be a completely incorrect assumption

BTW, you are on average 4% Neanerthal

 

[ChristineM]

I wouldnt want to get chummy with one

See my above post, it seems your ancestors had no such qualms

 

[Bear Wild]

Evolution of genetic networks for human creativity | Molecular Psychiatry

Neanderthal orthologs of the 972 genes related to personality in Sapiens were identified in annotated data of the Neanderthal Genome Project [88]. The replicability of these findings was then evaluated in separate analyses of the high-coverage genomes of the Altai Neanderthal [88], another Neanderthal from the Vindija cave [89] (specimen 33.19, Index of /neandertal/Vindija), and a third from the Chagyrskaya cave [90] (Index of /neandertal/Chagyrskaya). These analyses enabled us to identify genes that chimpanzees and/or Neanderthals shared with modern humans from those that were only found in modern humans (Supplementary Table S5) and then to compare their characteristics (Supplementary Tables S6 and S7).

Hope this helps. The genes identified were specialised for self-awareness afaik.

Thanks. I was aware of the genetic support I was just making an unnecessary remark that we cannot actually test for the level of self-awareness in Neanderthals because it is difficult to actually find one to test (non-genetic test). I cannot disagree with the potential level indicated by genetics.