Some are taught I would think, given that we can see how different cultures have evolved over time. But how many of these take their starting point in biological constrains, meaning that they arose outside our control as individuals?
I only know of values as being taught.
If you can give me one example of values being of biological origins, I would be interested in seeing that.
You asked if I would accept the supernatural, and this was an example of the supernatural and why I wouldn't accept it. If that is not what you meant with the question then I might have misunderstood what you meant.
I think you just went with what you thought, or heard.
Don't understand the questions and what it has to do with sin?
That's weird. Don't worry about it.
I don't think it is the same.
When scientists use the word "theory" it is well-defined, so everyone using it agrees on its meaning. When using the word sin, the meaning of the word might be agreed on, but what exactly is considered sinful and what is not, is not agreed upon, even amongst friends or family.
That's not true.
Sin is understood in the ways it is used, by those using the word.
I have read it, what is your point, did they have great knowledge about these things in your opinion? and if so where is that expressed in it?
I think there has been much said on this already.
It's okay if you don't agree.
There is a huge difference between performing these things and whether they truly understood what was going on. I would be the first to admit that ancient people weren't stupid, but doesn't change the fact that they were constrained due to a lack of technology and knowledge about things we know today.
Not true.
They did not have telescopes or a LHC, but they knew quite a lot about our celestial, and terrestrial world... and us.
That is an option as well, it doesn't, however, answer the question you asked me, because you asked me why the first human smoked and that person wouldn't have known that cannabis could have this effect.
Don't see why knowing the full effects matter.
Should probably have linked the article, the purpose of it, was not that people that do extreme sports also do drugs, they are comparing the two groups. Anyway, the point was the dopamine and how the body reacts to it, outside our mind, meaning that these people that enjoy extreme sports are biologically wired differently than those that don't enjoy stuff like that.
You'll need to verify that.
That is what I'm questioning, do we do things because of the biological urges imprinted on us, for which we have little to no control or do we freely choose to do things because we chose to? I'm not convinced that we are as free as we would like to think, but rather that it is an illusion of free will.
We disagree, of course.
I have a friend which doesn't have the least interest in being creative at all, to him, it's all hard facts. Other people are extremely creative and thrive and enjoy stuff like this, did that person using free will choose to be an artist or did the biological urges cause them to follow that path? I don't think that is that easy to answer.
It's easy enough.
Unless your friend is a day old, we know the answer.
We are all affected by things in life, and our feelings, motives, desires, change.
Because we do not feel like doing something, does not mean we lose our ability to exercise our free will.
For example, someone could become so depressed, they do not feel like eating. Does that mean they are no longer free to exercise their will? No.
I am dropping out of this debate though, since it's not going anywhere. (I don't mean with you, but the overall thread
).
If you have anything you want to add though, which might be new, you can still respond. I will do my best to address what you say, once we have not gone through it already.
