Fox News Tries to Bash Atheist and Agnostics

[Shadow Wolf]

Exactly. Microaggressions is jargon because it is meant to be rhetoric and obscure, and hide its real motives and the truth.

Unless that is an admission that you are contemptuously applying it towards words you don't understand, you are adding in a definition that isn't even there.

 

[Jeremy Taylor]

Unless that is an admission that you are contemptuously applying it towards words you don't understand, you are adding in a definition that isn't even there.

Actually it is more or less there. The definitions include unintelligibility and nonsense. That the dictionary doesn't go into all the ins and outs of cant and jargon is to be expected, such as the reasons for the nonsense. Dictionaries simply give basic information. This is obvious. A dictionary doesn't exhaust the nuance and meaning of terms. This is why we don't settle all academic and political disputes by pointing at dictionaries. I am really baffled at how you think you are making a sensible point here.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The definitions include unintelligibility and nonsense.

Just because you find it to be nonsense and unintelligible doesn't necessarily mean it is. You don't understand what is being said by "microaggressions," and even though it is a word that describes real actions, real behaviors, and real aggressions against different groups, you are dismissing it as "jargon" because you don't understand it. This would be the definition the OED gives when it states "applied contemptuously to any model of speech..."

 

[Jeremy Taylor]

You haven't responded to my actual criticisms, making your claims about my lack of understanding worthless.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You haven't responded to my actual criticisms, making your claims about my lack of understanding worthless.

Your claims are invalid. You are stating that microaggressions "distort reality," you speak of them as if they are euphemisms, and you are wrong about what they are.

 

[Jeremy Taylor]

That is a dismissal not an argument. The idea of microaggressions is clearly based on the idea that all except a few special groups are intrinsic bigots who need to constantly police - or have policed - their every minute action lest it perpetuate some gigantic discriminatory system. It is the zenith of navel-gazing idiocy. It makes you one wonder how those who believe in it could ever get anything done in life, for all the neurotic terror they must feel inside about their every action.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The idea of microaggressions is clearly based on the idea that all except a few special groups are intrinsic bigots who need to constantly police - or have policed - their every minute action lest it perpetuate some gigantic discriminatory system.

That is not, at all, what microaggressions are.

 

[Jeremy Taylor]

Of course it is. Microagressions include things like not capitalising the word Indigenous. It would, of course, include all opinions contrary to left-liberals, so far as these are not considered more than microaggressions.

 

[MARCELLO]

I am so grateful that fox news is not the leading channel in muslim world. Such an offered news about infidels would surely produce hundreds of death for nothing.

 

[Underhill]

Well, universal healthcare like the NHS has great problems. It costs a lot. It is simply that the state absorbs the cost and the average person doesn't notice. It tends to inefficient and service has to be rationed. Americans would be surprised at the sort of waiting lists you get on the NHS. But that is perhaps a different discussion. My point is I don't think the progressive wing of the Democratic - including Obama - is much different to the UK Labourites.

A lot less than ours. And you might be surprised at how long we have to wait for an appointment for a non essential visit too. My last checkup was 8 weeks after I made the appointment.

Obsession with racialism, sexism, etc., generally is. The right is not really as obsessed with it. I don't think you will find much obsession at all on the right, but if you wish to claim there is, I think you'll find it is simply a reaction to the left, and not anything innate.

Of course they are obsessed with it. They are obsessed with claiming the left is obsessed with it. But they are also obsessed with labels such as liberal, socialist and class warfare. They have their own list of identity hangups when it comes to immigrants or supposed christian persecution.

Cooper show is moderate, but he leans to the left still. I'm not sure why you rule out such shows from examples of bias.

Because it isn't news. It's like comparing Fox News to the Daily Show. One is news, the other is a comedy show. Cooper is not news. It is a panel show. People go to a show like Coopers to hear a variety of opinions just as they go to the Daily Show to laugh.

 

[Jared Jammer]

I can't see the video, but I'm assuming it's noting the disturbing link between a lack of belief in God and violence.

If so, it's not wrong; Atheists have a history of death and destruction that far exceeds what would be expected given their relatively small population.

Is it really surprising that a worldview which inherently devalues human life and rejects objective morality has such a bloody track record? It shouldn't be.

Bill has conveniently forgotten about.......

Timothy McVeigh.....

Vester Lee Flannagan

These are just a couple believers who were keen on mass murder.

Tim McVeigh was a self-confessed agnostic, which would make him (weak) atheist according to many.

McVeigh Faces Day of Reckoning | The Guardian

In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife.​

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Is it really surprising that a worldview which inherently devalues human life and rejects objective morality has such a bloody track record?

When it comes to mass murder, hands down, the Nazis "win." And there were all about the Christian God. The KKK, a Christian organization, has a long history of terrorizing, raping, and murdering people.The Provisional-IRA, a group of Catholics, seemed to hold no regard for life. Abortion clinic bombers and murderers do not care.The Crusades and Inquisition, carried out by Christians, conducted horrible torture and mass murder. ISIS is a group of blood-thirsty ********. And there are also many Christian terrorist groups, that exist today, that do not care for anyone's life outside of their own beliefs.
And there is absolutely nothing inherent about atheism, agnosticism, or non-theism in general that devalues life, and not many of them take up the position of relative morality (philosophically, it's known as a very difficult position to defend).

 

[Revoltingest]

I can't see the video, but I'm assuming it's noting the disturbing link between a lack of belief in God and violence.

If so, it's not wrong; Atheists have a history of death and destruction that far exceeds what would be expected given their relatively small population.

Is it really surprising that a worldview which inherently devalues human life and rejects objective morality has such a bloody track record? It shouldn't be.

Tim McVeigh was a self-confessed agnostic, which would make him (weak) atheist according to many.

McVeigh Faces Day of Reckoning | The Guardian

In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife.​

In contrast to your linked article, I offer this....
http://www.ethicsdaily.com/an-accurate-look-at-timothy-mcveighs-beliefs-cms-15532
In 2001....
Time: Are you religious?
McVeigh: I was raised Catholic. I was confirmed Catholic (received the sacrament of confirmation). Through my military years, I sort of lost touch with the religion. I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs.

Time: Do you believe in God?
McVeigh: I do believe in a God, yes. But that's as far as I want to discuss. If I get too detailed on some things that are personal like that, it gives people an easier way [to] alienate themselves from me and that's all they are looking for now.