Will Campbell
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He'll come out of the east at a blast of god's trumpet. He'll be riding a bank of clouds and the dead will rise first and float up to join him. About that time a whole flock of bird dogs will fly over.
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For Jesus believers: What is Jesus coming to fix?
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He'll come out of the east at a blast of god's trumpet. He'll be riding a bank of clouds and the dead will rise first and float up to join him. About that time a whole flock of bird dogs will fly over.
John Martin
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The first coming of Jesus was the entry of God's unconditional love into this world.
By the inherent grace of God Jesus Christ entered into a realm of consciousness, which broke down the walls of division and inaugurated one God, one creation and one humanity. This consciousness was the realm of peace. Jesus did not bring peace into the world but he discovered that there was a realm of peace already into which everyone can enter. This realm is like an infinite space. It does not have any boundaries. It is all embracing universal consciousness. Jesus invited everyone to enter into this consciousness and experience peace for oneself and for the whole of humanity. Divisions in the name of God are human constructions,even though, inspired by God and willed by God for human need. The earth is one and the divisions in the name of nationalities are man-made. A person who takes a rocket and goes above the earth and looks at it,he or she see only one earth, and boundaries are man made. Jesus invited people to make this journey above the divisions and see one God, one creation and one humanity. This is the realm of peace which is always open to people who have the desire and the courage to do so. If Christ is the symbol of unity and peace Anti-Christ is the symbol of division and violence. Antichrists are those who absolutize the conditioned truth, who build the walls in the name of God and of Christ, and become source of conflict and violence in the world.
Anti-Christs are not false. They have some truth but their truth is conditioned truth. The truth of Christ is like the infinite space and the truth of Antichrist is like the space within the four walls,without a door. it is a conditioned truth thought to be absolute truth or fullness of truth. Jesus Christ was in the conditioned truth, but broke the wall and made a door and invited everyone to enter into the unconditioned truth. Not everyone listened to him. Jesus Christ had done his mission and now it is our turn to do our mission.
The Second coming of Jesus is not Jesus coming into the world from above but human beings who enter into above from below, who enter into the kingdom of God. The kingdom of peace is accessible to everyone. We just need to come out of our four walls and enter into the infinite space,where unity and peace are already there. If we are not willing to enter into the kingdom of peace and decide to remain in our four walls and enclose our slevs, then the second coming of Jesus does not serve any purpose. Jesus will ask again the people to come out of the four walls and he will receive the same treatment as he received two thousand years ago. If he had become wise by his previous experience then he will not come second time. If we have convinced that our truth in the four walls is the fullness of Truth and then expect the second coming of Jesus hoping that he would support our truth and condemn everyone else as Anti-Christ, would be met with a complete disappointment, as we ourselves may be found in the place of Anti-Christ.
By the inherent grace of God Jesus Christ entered into a realm of consciousness, which broke down the walls of division and inaugurated one God, one creation and one humanity. This consciousness was the realm of peace. Jesus did not bring peace into the world but he discovered that there was a realm of peace already into which everyone can enter. This realm is like an infinite space. It does not have any boundaries. It is all embracing universal consciousness. Jesus invited everyone to enter into this consciousness and experience peace for oneself and for the whole of humanity. Divisions in the name of God are human constructions,even though, inspired by God and willed by God for human need. The earth is one and the divisions in the name of nationalities are man-made. A person who takes a rocket and goes above the earth and looks at it,he or she see only one earth, and boundaries are man made. Jesus invited people to make this journey above the divisions and see one God, one creation and one humanity. This is the realm of peace which is always open to people who have the desire and the courage to do so. If Christ is the symbol of unity and peace Anti-Christ is the symbol of division and violence. Antichrists are those who absolutize the conditioned truth, who build the walls in the name of God and of Christ, and become source of conflict and violence in the world.
Anti-Christs are not false. They have some truth but their truth is conditioned truth. The truth of Christ is like the infinite space and the truth of Antichrist is like the space within the four walls,without a door. it is a conditioned truth thought to be absolute truth or fullness of truth. Jesus Christ was in the conditioned truth, but broke the wall and made a door and invited everyone to enter into the unconditioned truth. Not everyone listened to him. Jesus Christ had done his mission and now it is our turn to do our mission.
The Second coming of Jesus is not Jesus coming into the world from above but human beings who enter into above from below, who enter into the kingdom of God. The kingdom of peace is accessible to everyone. We just need to come out of our four walls and enter into the infinite space,where unity and peace are already there. If we are not willing to enter into the kingdom of peace and decide to remain in our four walls and enclose our slevs, then the second coming of Jesus does not serve any purpose. Jesus will ask again the people to come out of the four walls and he will receive the same treatment as he received two thousand years ago. If he had become wise by his previous experience then he will not come second time. If we have convinced that our truth in the four walls is the fullness of Truth and then expect the second coming of Jesus hoping that he would support our truth and condemn everyone else as Anti-Christ, would be met with a complete disappointment, as we ourselves may be found in the place of Anti-Christ.
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Will Campbell
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"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature."
~Dr. Albert Einstein~
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John Martin
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Dr.Albert Einstein was scientist and scientific mystic. We cannot expert ultimate purpose of life from him. Only a spiritually mystic can give us satisfying answers about after life.
The whole purpose of planet earth is that it is the planting field of God for His harvest. The ultimate plan of God is that He is building an eternity called the Kingdom of heaven. Planet earth is to qualify under witnessing that who should be able to go there. Exodus is fore shadowing of the scenario of Jesus' second coming.
Moses, the greatest prophet of the Jews led the Jews out of Egypt, saved them from being enslaved and brought them to the promised land of Canaan.
Jesus, the greatest prophet of humans will lead both the Jews and Gentiles out of Hades/Earth, will save them from being enslaved by sin/Satan, and will bring them to the promise land of New Earth and New Heaven.
(here human souls being brought to New Heaven and New Earth are considered as God's harvest)
By then, planet earth will be an abandoned ship.
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Thank you. I believe he will lead them. How? Is the new heaven and earth being prepared? Who is it for?
The Bible says that Jesus will resurrect the death and judge them. Believers will be brought to the New heaven and New earth (possibly a new dimension or new space(s) ). It is called a Heaven which is an eternity built for God, the angels and humans to live there forever.