First verses Book of Mormon/Bible comparisons

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Queen Victoria represented that NATION collectively. "We" represented the "people."

Actually, no. English used to use the plural form of pronouns to denote respect for the person being referred to; this applied to anyone of "higher rank", not just the monarch. You can still see the same thing in French, Spanish and many other languages today.

In fact, in English, the word "you" was originally the plural form. The second-person singluar pronouns were "thee" and "thou"; "you" would be only used for second-person plural or when addressing someone of higher social rank. Eventually, the fashion became to use the "you" form exclusively... basically, it was a linguistic form of self-aggrandizement.

T–V distinction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Majestic plural - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Watchmen]

Oh? What part in the bible implies mary's a descendant of David?

Off topic. Why don't you google it and read some theories yourself.

 

[LittleNipper]

Ah, because US means Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is so clear!! Why did the Talmudic scholars drift so far from the Trinity? It is so obvious throughout the Old Testament! Of course you are right.


But really, if you think that was ever a part of the Hebrew religion, I have a little land in Florida I can sell you cheap.

The Jews made the mistake of looking for an earthly king to restore Israel. The Messiah is about an eternal LORD who redeems whosoever will eternally. Two entirely different kingdoms.

 

[tumbleweed41]

The Jews made the mistake of looking for an earthly king to restore Israel. The Messiah is about an eternal LORD who redeems whosoever will eternally. Two entirely different kingdoms.

Again, this is according to Christian theology.
A wholly different way of thinking from Hebrew theology.
Thus a change from an earlier theology.
Exactly what has been claimed.

 

[LittleNipper]

Again, this is according to Christian theology.
A wholly different way of thinking from Hebrew theology.
Thus a change from an earlier theology.
Exactly what has been claimed.

Well, again there are all sorts of clues that Abraham and Moses knew better...

 

[Humanistheart]

Off topic. Why don't you google it and read some theories yourself.

In other words none of it, becaue mary's lineage is never given.

 

[Humanistheart]

The Jews made the mistake of looking for an earthly king to restore Israel. The Messiah is about an eternal LORD who redeems whosoever will eternally. Two entirely different kingdoms.

The followers of jesus simply perverted the jewish prophicies to coincide with jesus. Can you name even one that fits him without a concerted effort of mental gymnastics?

 

[Humanistheart]

Well, again there are all sorts of clues that Abraham and Moses knew better...

The messiah wasn't a concept in the book containing abraham. That idea didn't develope until much later.

 

[Humanistheart]

Queen Victoria represented that NATION collectively. "We" represented the "people."

God could just as easily be talking to the angels as in muslim tradition, or his wife and spirit children as in mormon teaching. There is nothing in the use of we there that inherently shows a connection to the trinity. Plus your argueing that god was talking to himself, lol.

 

[Watchmen]

In other words none of it, becaue mary's lineage is never given.

In other words, you'll make no effort so what's the point talking with you.

 

[Humanistheart]

In other words, you'll make no effort so what's the point talking with you.

Right, because actual knowledge concerning the bible doens't correlate with your interpretation, so it must be my fault.

 

[Watchmen]

Right, because actual knowledge concerning the bible doens't correlate with your interpretation, so it must be my fault.

It correlates just fine, you just refuse to look and see what others have to say on the topic. It's fine. I knew you wouldn't anyway.

 

[Humanistheart]

It correlates just fine, you just refuse to look and see what others have to say on the topic. It's fine. I knew you wouldn't anyway.

I asked you to show where it did, you said go look it up yourself. Perhaps your unaware this is a debate forum?

 

[Watchmen]

I asked you to show where it did, you said go look it up yourself. Perhaps your unaware this is a debate forum?

I don't spoon feed when I know the person doesn't give a rat's ***. This is my final post on the subject. Go ahead and have the last word - I know your ego wants it.

 

[Humanistheart]

I don't spoon feed when I know the person doesn't give a rat's ***. This is my final post on the subject. Go ahead and have the last word - I know your ego wants it.

Poor watchmen. Every time you can't defend a claim you resort to this. You did the same thing on the BoM thread that disproved your religion.

 

[Watchmen]

mary lineage of david - Google Search

for those interested.

 

[Humanistheart]

mary lineage of david - Google Search

for those interested.

Let's take a look at the first site listed on the link watchmen provided. It links mary's lineage to luke 3. "Her genealogy is given in Luke 3."But let's look at the passage.

"And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli," luke 3:23

Mary's not mentioned here.

 

[Watchmen]

For those curious, humanistheart is picking and choosing what he'll post rather than reviewing the full explanations. Of course I expected nothing less.

 

[Humanistheart]

For those curious, humanistheart is picking and choosing what he'll post.

Yes. The facts.

 

[Humanistheart]

This is my final post on the subject.

What happened to this being your final post on this subject? So, when you're up in heaven and your god asks you why you sinned, lied, what will you tell him? Well, someone was wrong on the internet!