Let's come back to this again. He had an experience. Period. The experience is a real experience. What he saw, how he interprets it, is what is a matter of question. Not the fact that "something" happened. It could be a drug-induced hallucination for all I care. But that person had an actual experience. What of, is the question. The only time you could say he didn't have an experience, is to claim a false memory where nothing ever happened historically. Get it now?
Yes. They had a subtle-level experience, either as a peak experience, drug-assisted mystical experiences, or natural meditation experiences. How that is experienced will vary from person to person, and culture to culture. The Christian will see a Christian religious figure, the Hindu and Hindu one, the Buddhist and Buddhist one, and so forth. But they are all having similar mystical state experiences. They are all subtle-level mystical states, and they all bear similar features, similar characteristics, similar descriptions, despite the fact the forms they take, the faces they bear are different. I know I went into detail on this before.
This is a bit of tedious ground to explore here, but it's not a case of "for the worse" if they experience was part of some spiritual awakening. If you are talking just getting stoned to "flip out" or something, like a bad acid trip, yes that can mess with someone's head. Step back from drug experiences for a minute, and let's talk spontaneous "peak experiences". Typically this is a result of some sort of catharsis in someone's life, some deep existential crisis that leads to an awakening moment. This can and does change someone's life radically. But some people will choose to ignore these because they are too much to handle, fear of rejection, fear of life change, etc. I covered all this before too....
I'd have to hear an example of the sort of "dream" you are describing.
Did I ever once say the experience is absolute?
I would never say that Enlightenment would be understood the same in all lifeforms. I don't believe there actually is any end-point of Enlightenment. As long as we have a body, and as long as that changes, how we experience Life, will always be on the move. If our species manages to continue to evolve if the earth doesn't snuff us all out first, the human of the future will understand Enlightenment is ways beyond what those who are enlightened today do.
If our brains had greater capacity, then how Consciousness is experienced in its pure states, will be experienced differently. It becomes a matter of greater depths, greater capacities for Awareness to be experienced and known. It's Infinite, but we are not. Enlightenment, is the pinnacle, the height of human experience of the Divine, if you will. Other species have different capacities. At what point we call it "spiritual" is a matter of degrees relative to ourselves. But ultimately everything is Spirit. It's really a matter of how deeply we see, or do not see it as such.
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