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Do the homeless matter?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
A lot of them don't want to be help or consider being homeless a problem.
Like some in van life. They live our of their off grid vehicles and have a source of income.

It's an out for what otherwise could be a very expensive and unstainable living if they had apartments that cost about grand a month.

It's one of my personal alternatives should I ever lose my home.
 

jes-us

Active Member
Do the homeless not matter? They are people too! This needs more attention.

Homelessness is lethal’: US deaths among those without housing are surging

Experts at the non-profit National Health Care for the Homeless Council say that, in many places, the people who perish without housing are never counted. They estimate the total number of deaths is actually between 17,000 and 40,000 every year.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/homelessness-is-lethal-deaths-have-risen-dramatically?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16694364900237&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/homelessness-is-lethal-deaths-have-risen-dramatically

We have a long ways to go...

The governments don't see the homeless has having a use in society so they choose to ignore them most often . They look after stray animals more than the homeless all too often .
However , the gov does have problems because when they try to help some homeless people , the gov require rules that will work for some but not for others .

I.e This homeless housing unit doesn't allow alcohol or drugs etc .


Well that is difficult for a homeless person to do when they have been trying to escape their own body for a long time by getting off their ''heads'' . Not realising that themselves the set of words in their mind only becomes confused by getting high and destroys their innocent bodies .

The fact is we need to create some homeless camps and turn a blind eye to some of the rules . Provide some neurological influence and they will all become ''good'' eventually .
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member
Do the homeless not matter? They are people too! This needs more attention.

Homelessness is lethal’: US deaths among those without housing are surging

Experts at the non-profit National Health Care for the Homeless Council say that, in many places, the people who perish without housing are never counted. They estimate the total number of deaths is actually between 17,000 and 40,000 every year.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/homelessness-is-lethal-deaths-have-risen-dramatically?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16694364900237&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/homelessness-is-lethal-deaths-have-risen-dramatically

We have a long ways to go...

They would.If only more voted.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Do the homeless not matter? They are people too! This needs more attention.

Homelessness is lethal’: US deaths among those without housing are surging

Experts at the non-profit National Health Care for the Homeless Council say that, in many places, the people who perish without housing are never counted. They estimate the total number of deaths is actually between 17,000 and 40,000 every year.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/homelessness-is-lethal-deaths-have-risen-dramatically?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16694364900237&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/07/homelessness-is-lethal-deaths-have-risen-dramatically

We have a long ways to go...

They do matter as human beings who deserve dignity and respect, but the problem is that they don't matter to the politicians who are owned by rich donors and lobbyists, from the municipal level on up. So services are underfunded and there's a severe lack of affordable housing. They're not all drug addicts and mentally ill, either. Many of these people are working class poor and don't make enough to afford rent or fell on hard times, etc. They'll be living out of vehicles and hotels, many times with children. There is a huge problem with poverty and the rich/poor gap in this country. Its getting harder and harder to be upwardly mobile in this country.

There's only so much charity can do, so we've desperately have to get a new government that is actually for We, the People.
 

☆Dreamwind☆

Active Member
They're people who have fallen on hard times, or in some cases felt that their current situation was the lesser of two evils and had to run for it.

There are good, bad and in-between among them. They have friends, lovers, and chosen family among their communities too.

It's ridiculous that some people treat homelessness as a crime. For who knows if they may one day end up in a bad situation with the cost of living continuing to rise, affordable housing being out of people's reach, and overpopulation. Or having to flee and disappear from a horrible situation
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
They're people who have fallen on hard times, or in some cases felt that their current situation was the lesser of two evils and had to run for it.

There are good, bad and in-between among them. They have friends, lovers, and chosen family among their communities too.

It's ridiculous that some people treat homelessness as a crime. For who knows if they may one day end up in a bad situation with the cost of living continuing to rise, affordable housing being out of people's reach, and overpopulation. Or having to flee and disappear from a horrible home life.
It's why I would think everyone needs a job for an income.

As long as a person has an income, living as an employed gypsy like those in van lives can even save some money after expenses, is much much better than being on the street without an income and desolate.

I am thinking a UBI would be beneficial for people living under the poverty threshold.

I don't know if they'll ever happen in my lifetime however but it's always a hope.

That song by OMD , "The land of plenty" should be the anthem for every first world country.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
A lot of them don't want to be help or consider being homeless a problem.
Actually, the fastest growing segment of the homeless population, by far, are seniors that worked low-paying jobs their whole lives and now can't live on the absurdly low social security payout that was originally intended to make sure this didn't happen to anyone. But the politicians stole all the money that these people paid in, and then lied about paying it back. So they decided it was better to just keep cutting the benefits and blame it on the people. And a lot of YOU PEOPLE voted for them. Reagan did it first, and then every president except Obama did it after they saw that Reagan got away with it.

Clinton repealed the Glass-Stegall Act that kept banks from turning home loans into market products to be bought and sold and traded for profit and so homes intended for people to live in have now become "assets" for the Wall Street banks and their rich clients to exploit for their own profit. So millions of homes sit empty while millions of citizens go homeless. Clinton also signed NAFTA that cost millions of Americans their good paying industrial jobs. And no jobs means no car, no house, no nothing. And of course Reagan enabled the capitalists to union-bust with impunity and so all the jobs that remained are still paying squat to this day. Oh, and let's not forget Reagan closing all the institutions housing the mentally ill, and throwing them all out in the streets, with nothing.

So if we want to know how this happened, look at Reagan and Clinton, and at ourselves for letting them behave like war criminals against our own people. And stop blaming the homeless. The real cause is our own fear and greed. And the selfishness and delusion that it causes within us.
 
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