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Didn't Nanak’s hymns form a complete code for “Sikhism”?

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Didn't Nanak’s hymns form a complete code for “Sikhism”, please?

If Nanak’s hymns formed a complete code for Sikhism, then, what was "completed" in it by Angad down to Arjan and ceremonized as "completion of Granth"? What it meant, please?

I understand that it meant that these self-assumed “gurus” completed the systematic alteration/corruption/doctoring of Granth and or of Nanak's hymns in it. Right, please?

If not, then please give one's arguments from Science and or from Religion or both, please.

Thread open fro everybody from religion or no-religion


Regards
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Don't do that. Read NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS: RF Rule #10 has been Amended.

While you are pointing one finger at the Sikh Gurus and their scripture, three fingers are pointing towards you.
Can you give any proof of existence of Allah and any proof right for Adam to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad that they were prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis sent by any Allah?
At least the Sikh Gurus were not fakers. They did not claim that they were messengers of any God or Allah.
"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at houses of others"
(Hindi/Punjabi proverb).

 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
One seemed to be in an angry-mood. Right, please?
If so,one may take benefit from the following Hymn of Nanak in the Granth, please:

Granth-Page 1257

"Power, wealth and youth are all just shadows, as are the vehicles you see moving around. Neither your body, nor your fame, nor your social status shall go along with you. In the next world it is day, while here, it is all night. || 2 || Let your taste for pleasures be the firewood, let your greed be the ghee, and your sexual desire and anger the cooking oil; burn them in the fire. Some make burnt offerings, hold sacred feasts, and read the Puraanas. Whatever pleases God is acceptable. || 3 ||"
PAGE 1257 - Gurmukhi to English Translation and Phonetic Transliteration of Siri Guru Granth Sahib.
Right,please?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Don't do that. Read NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS: RF Rule #10 has been Amended.

While you are pointing one finger at the Sikh Gurus and their scripture, three fingers are pointing towards you.
Can you give any proof of existence of Allah and any proof right for Adam to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad that they were prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / mahdis sent by any Allah?
At least the Sikh Gurus were not fakers. They did not claim that they were messengers of any God or Allah.
"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at houses of others"
(Hindi/Punjabi proverb).

" Can you give any proof of existence of Allah"(?)

Nanak did believe in Allah, I understand, and he mentioned it in Nanak's hymns in Granth, please:

Page 53 of Nanak's hymns in the Granth

Quote "I speak and chant His Praises, vibrating the instrument of my mind. The more I know Him, the more I vibrate it. The One, unto whom we vibrate and sing - how great is He, and where is His Place? Those who speak of Him and praise Him - they all continue speaking of Him with love. || 1 || O Baba, the Lord Allah is Inaccessible and Infinite. Sacred is His Name, and Sacred is His Place. He is the True Cherisher. || 1 ||" Unquote
PAGE 53 - Gurmukhi to English Translation and Phonetic Transliteration of Siri Guru Granth Sahib.

Is this proof OK for our friends here ( and our friend @Aupmanyav) , please?
Right,please?

Regards
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Didn't Nanak’s hymns form a complete code for “Sikhism”?: Guru Nanak never meant it to be a one man affair. He traveled through the length and breadth of the country, discussed spirituality with Hindu and Muslim saints, sang hymns composed by Hindu and Muslim saints, had Hindu and Muslims companions and followers, closest being Bhai Mardana, who was a Muslims, and the first to be a Sikh. "The Miharban Janam Sakhi .. It further states that Mardana sang hymns written by Kabir, Trilochan, Ravidas, Dhanna and Beni." (Bhai Mardana-Wikipedia). The later Gurus also added their hymns to Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

You do not have the wherewith all to understand what Nanak said. Be happy with whatever Mirza Ghulam Ahmad said. Sikhism is not an Abrahamic religions with one who claims without even an iota of evidence of being whatever-you-call-them (prophet / son / messenger / manifestation / mahdi).
 
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