Freddyfourfingers
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but i dont believe we can discuss this issue until we resolve the issue regarding his existance.
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but i dont believe we can discuss this issue until we resolve the issue regarding his existance.
This is more along philosophical lines. Even perchance Jesus is fiction, it wouldn't affect the dialog here too much as it deals primarily with schools of thought.but i dont believe we can discuss this issue until we resolve the issue regarding his existance.
Yes, Jesus the man existed. This is fact.
before we discuss this issue, should we not establish if jesus existed in the way some believe he did?
There are a zillion threads in these forums addressing that topic. This isn't one of them.
but this is discussing jesus, so before responding to this question i felt the need to check up some background facts.
so if jesus existed, as a man, how can u be so sure? google doesnt have any birth records for those years
There are two literary sources which contain detail about the historical Jesus of Nazareth: the Bible and the writings of Josephus. The Canonical Gospels are the most reliable historical documents ever (literally thousands of fragments and even complete texts exist to this day which determine it's authenticity and reliability). Nowhere is there any evidence that the man Jesus of Nazareth ever left Israel except for a brief time spent in Egypt as a very small child. Another story places him in Jerusalem (at about 12).
What was he doing the rest of the time? He was growing up in Galilee and learning the trade of a carpenter. I think the story of his life presented in the bible is pretty fantastic enough. It is unnecessary to add to it with pure speculation.
I see.
Yeah, I kinda need more than that to be wholly convinced. ^_^