I say they're identical. When you keep telling me they're different, you never give a coherent explanation of how they're different.
I keep asking you for it and you keep not having it.
So answer the questions in my previous post, nice and clearly, one by one, and then you may actually have made a statement that can be understood.
Or admit you can't and then we can both go home. No point in persisting with my trying to understand your position and you never telling me, because, I can only conclude, you don't yourself understand it or its problems.
It is not my problem,
it is your inability to read and understand my logical explanation. I don't like playing games, so stop pretending you don't understand. It is so simple, people make choices, the brain acts on those choices, and the body enacts what the brain commands it to do. I don't like your questions, they are predicated on false assumptions. The brain does not act independent of social situations or environmental circumstances. There is no evidence for you theory, so why do you keep proposing it? People are not determined by their brains, they use their brains to carry out daily activities.
Again, here is what I stated.
There is no such thing as a cause and effect brain. The brain is part of the person who is reacting to the situation, therefore, the person guides the brain. Otherwise, the person would have no choices. Refute this statement with evidence.
In addition, refute this statement with a logical argument, not with what the brain may do, as if it is an isolating entity. The brain is part of an individual's personality, world view, and decision making processes. Why don't you understand?
In order for one to understand the dilemma of cause and effect, we must know what precedes brain activity. The brain does not dictate actions, the person wills action or controls the brain. There are numerous examples of what causes everday social activities. The individual makes a choice, and the brain carries out commandments. You can measure the process. The person decides to read a book, the brain communicates commandments to pick up the book. The person begins reading the book, the brain engages and reads the book. If you time the events you will find individual choice precedes brain activity leading to reading the book. The brain doesn't command the person to read the book, the person commands the brain to make the eyes read the book. It is a multifunctional process. The person wills action, hands move, eyes see, the brain comprehends and reading begins.
Here is an example of wrong thinking on your part. Here is my question.
What is most important, brain activity or individual choices?
Here is your answer.
"I say they're identical. When you keep telling me they're different, you never give a coherent explanation of how
they're different."
How can they be identical? If they were identical, the person would not have a personality or control of situations. They work in conjunction with individual will or predispositions. A person confronts a situation, and the brain functions as a consequence of what the person wants or desires, it is called "person choice." As an example, a person confronts another car on the road heading straight at his or her car. The person doesn't allow the brain to go along merrily thinking this or that, the person commands the brain to make the hands turn the wheel to avoid the accident. In this case, the individual choice makes the brain act. How many more examples do you require?
People have personalities, predispositions, habits, moral principles, goals and behavior patterns which make each individual different. Brains are the net consequences of daily activities in which the person makes choices. The brain is the command center for the person, not an independent function. The brain contains individual characteristics related to daily decision making, it is part of the whole person. Most people are in control of their brains. If they have a bad habit, they change brain activity to correct the deficiency.