Descendants of Abraham

[Aabraham ben Azar]

Can anybody at present finds out the real and true descendants of Abraham and seed of Ishmael & Isaac ?
If somebody claims he is : what proofs to be provided ?
To be a descendant of Abraham is an important issue in Abrahamic belief as God blessed childeren of Abraham as they played a great role in humanity since 4000 years and still through 3 Abrahamic religions ( Judaism,Christinaty and Islam ).
(( They live next to each other / They marry each other / They fight each other ))

 

[Vultar]

Well since Abraham is a descendants of Noah and everybody is supposedly a descendant of Noah, then everybody would also then be related to Abraham.

Of course that whole Noah story doesn't make sense, so probably none of them actually existed, so nobody is actually a descendant of him...

They are just as likely to be related to Cinderella or Snow White....

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[Aabraham ben Azar]

Well since Abraham is a descendants of Noah and everybody is supposedly a descendant of Noah, then everybody would also then be related to Abraham.

Of course that whole Noah story doesn't make sense, so probably none of them actually existed, so nobody is actually a descendant of him...

They are just as likely to be related to Cinderella or Snow White....

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Disclaimer: I don't expect anyone to believe what I write.... I'm just a messenger....

The DNA science has proved that the real and true Arabs " Ishmaelis" and Judahites "Isaacs" belong to the Haplogroup J1c3d.
Ishmaelis and Isaacs are related to each other scientifically , so Science and History support each other ( no more myth from now and onward ).

Do you believe in Science or it's myth also ?????

 

[beerisit]

The DNA science has proved that the real and true Arabs " Ishmaelis" and Judahites "Isaacs" belong to the Haplogroup J1c3d.
Ishmaelis and Isaacs are related to each other scientifically , so Science and History support each other ( no more myth from now and onward ).

Do you believe in Science or it's myth also ?????

Well all you need to do is prove the flood good luck with that. Very hard to prove myths.

 

[Vultar]

The DNA science has proved that the real and true Arabs " Ishmaelis" and Judahites "Isaacs" belong to the Haplogroup J1c3d.
Ishmaelis and Isaacs are related to each other scientifically , so Science and History support each other ( no more myth from now and onward ).

Do you believe in Science or it's myth also ?????

They don't have the dna of any of the biblical figures, so there is no scientific proof of anything.

 

[Godobeyer]

The DNA science has proved that the real and true Arabs " Ishmaelis" and Judahites "Isaacs" belong to the Haplogroup J1c3d.
Ishmaelis and Isaacs are related to each other scientifically , so Science and History support each other ( no more myth from now and onward ).

Do you believe in Science or it's myth also ?????

i believe in it , what is the reference ?

 

[outhouse]

Can anybody at present finds out the real and true descendants of Abraham and seed of Ishmael & Isaac ?
If somebody claims he is : what proofs to be provided ?
To be a descendant of Abraham is an important issue in Abrahamic belief as God blessed childeren of Abraham as they played a great role in humanity since 4000 years and still through 3 Abrahamic religions ( Judaism,Christinaty and Islam ).
(( They live next to each other / They marry each other / They fight each other ))

first of all abraham is a literary creation according to historians



second if there was a abraham, he would be Mesopotamian.

 

[Hevenly Heathen]

(( They live next to each other / They marry each other / They fight each other ))

Talk about a dysfunctional family.

Why is it important to trace back to Abraham?

 

[Aabraham ben Azar]

They don't have the dna of any of the biblical figures, so there is no scientific proof of anything.

But they have descendants of biblical figuers like Bnei Yeshmael & Bnei Yesshaq ( Arabs & Jews at present ).

 

[Aabraham ben Azar]

i believe in it , what is the reference ?

Kohens tested their paternal lineage and proved they are HG J1c3d like their cousins Arab Ishmaelis HG J1c3d so Bnei Yeshmael & Bnei Yesshaq are cousines historicaly and scientificaly .So descendants of Abraham and seeds of Ishmael & Isaac are J1c3d ( Abrahamic Haplogroup ).
From now and onwards no one can claims that he is a descendant of Abraham or Ishmael or Isaac , old and false game is over now .
Millions of Sayyids and Shariefs ( descendants of Imam Ali ) in the Islamic world must be tested in oreder to differentiate between true and false Sayyids as well as with the Kohens and Levites or Bnei Yesrael .
More details regarding Kohen DNA project you can google for Ishaq D. Al Sulaimani ( Isaac David Solomon ).
There is a Forum site for DNA science : eng.molgen.org

 

[Aabraham ben Azar]

Kohens tested their paternal lineage and proved they are HG J1c3d like their cousins Arab Ishmaelis HG J1c3d so Bnei Yeshmael & Bnei Yesshaq are cousines historicaly and scientificaly .So descendants of Abraham and seeds of Ishmael & Isaac are J1c3d ( Abrahamic Haplogroup ).
From now and onwards no one can claims that he is a descendant of Abraham or Ishmael or Isaac , old and false game is over now .
Millions of Sayyids and Shariefs ( descendants of Imam Ali ) in the Islamic world must be tested in oreder to differentiate between true and false Sayyids as well as with the Kohens and Levites or Bnei Yesrael .
More details regarding Kohen DNA project you can google for Ishaq D. Al Sulaimani ( Isaac David Solomon ).
There is a Forum site for DNA science : eng.molgen.org

Really I am surprised that not much of people in the forum interested in science as not many comment or discussion on the subject , I just imagine if this subject was about some myths or legends you would read hundreds of comments for days and weeks !!! ( where are the Atheists and non belivers in myths ??!!!! )
Can anybody here tell us what is the reason ????????

 

[Najara]

kohens the children of aaron, moshes brother, and they are from the tribe of levi. if regular levites that are not kohen dont have this gene and the kohens do, that proves that they are from the same father, aaron. if that makes sense then what you are saying is that all arabs are kohens/children of aaron. you make no sense.

 

[Aabraham ben Azar]

kohens the children of aaron, moshes brother, and they are from the tribe of levi. if regular levites that are not kohen dont have this gene and the kohens do, that proves that they are from the same father, aaron. if that makes sense then what you are saying is that all arabs are kohens/children of aaron. you make no sense.

Not all Arabs are Ishmaelis as well as not all Jews are Isaacs, so many present Arabs are descendants of Isaac and so many Jews are descendants of Ishmael.
let us make it clear to you :
Since our father Abraham/Avraham Avinu/Abuna Ebrahim 4000 years ago his descendants spread all over the Middle East and they mixed up and intermarried and they followed various faiths and believed in one God as per teachings and laws of various massengers of God like Moses,Jesus and Muhammed.so you will find descendants of Abraham are followers of Judaism,Christinaty and Islam.
Therefore the DNA science identified and proved that so many Jews , Christians and Muslims are cousins and belong to one father and one Haplogroup J1c3d ( Abrahamic Haplogroup ).
Any Jew or Christian or Muslim dosen't have HP J1c3d he is not a descendant of Abraham .
We have to distinguish between the terms Arabs /Jews and descendants of Abraham ( not All Arabs are seed of Ishmael and not all Jews are seed of Isaac ).
Conclusion :
Judaism, Christinaty and Islam are religions comprised of numerous and various peoples of all races and ethnicities and their followers are descendants of Abraham,Semitics and other nations ( African,Asian and European).