Critical Race Theory (CRT)

[Secret Chief]

Perfect example John Birch Society (jbs.org)

I didn't know the UN was a socialist organisation. "One of the first campaigns of The John Birch Society was to get the U.S. out of the United Nations. The global power elites view the UN as their main vehicle for establishing, step by step, a socialistic global government controlled by themselves."

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Here is a very good, if long, article on CRT and what it actually is (as opposed to the false narrative of it presented by conservatives)

The Man Behind Critical Race Theory

I don't see how this explains CRT? Is there a good website that defines what it is? I can find many but they all seem biased one way or the other.

Looking at some online sources here is what seems to be common tenants:

1. Racism is present in American culture, politics and every aspect of society.
2. Race is a social construct, not based in any science etc.
3. White people only work to reduce racism when it is in their best interest to do so.
4. Storytelling is the preferred way to advance black people and the tenants of CRT. (This is probably misstated but it is as I understand it at this time)
5. Trying to "not see color" is not an effective way to combat racism. People of color need to be noticed for their color so we can tackle racism.

 

[Stevicus]

I didn't know the UN was a socialist organisation. "One of the first campaigns of The John Birch Society was to get the U.S. out of the United Nations. The global power elites view the UN as their main vehicle for establishing, step by step, a socialistic global government controlled by themselves."

I guess you've never known any Birchers, huh? I met a few when my grandparents were living in Orange County, California, which was hotspot for far-right politics (in a mostly liberal state). I've also encountered them here in Arizona.

 

[Secret Chief]

I guess you've never known any Birchers, huh? I met a few when my grandparents were living in Orange County, California, which was hotspot for far-right politics (in a mostly liberal state). I've also encountered them here in Arizona.

I find, as a non-American, such websites to induce car crash rubbernecking in me. Then I end up going down the rabbit hole links and thinking that this is a country on a collision course with itself.

 

[Valjean]

I don't see how this explains CRT? Is there a good website that defines what it is? I can find many but they all seem biased one way or the other.

What questions did you have? CRT is a division of Sociology. If you want to understand what it covers, I think the link and the online sources you looked at likely explained it. If you want to learn what facts underlie the discipline and what conclusions may be drawn from them, why not take an online course?

Looking at some online sources here is what seems to be common tenants:

1. Racism is present in American culture, politics and every aspect of society.
2. Race is a social construct, not based in any science etc.
3. White people only work to reduce racism when it is in their best interest to do so.
4. Storytelling is the preferred way to advance black people and the tenants of CRT. (This is probably misstated but it is as I understand it at this time)
5. Trying to "not see color" is not an effective way to combat racism. People of color need to be noticed for their color so we can tackle racism.

OK, so what questions did you have, and what kind of bias are you seeing?

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

OK, so what questions did you have, and what kind of bias are you seeing?

Is my list correct for starters?

 

[Stevicus]

I find, as a non-American, such websites to induce car crash rubbernecking in me. Then I end up going down the rabbit hole links and thinking that this is a country on a collision course with itself.

Gotta love this American Ride.

 

[Valjean]

Is my list correct for starters?

For the most part, though I haven't taken any CRT courses. I think #4 needs a little more explanation, though.

Keep in mind that sociology isn't just pulled out of someone's hat. Its tenets are evidence-derived.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

For the most part, though I haven't taken any CRT courses. I think #4 needs a little more explanation, though.

Keep in mind that sociology isn't just pulled out of someone's hat. Its tenets are evidence-derived.

Just looking for that evidence. It is hard to find when the subject is so political.

 

[Valjean]

Just looking for that evidence. It is hard to find when the subject is so political.

Everything is political, but not everything is politicized.
CRT has been around for decades, but it wasn't until recently that the right wing discovered it could be used to scare voters into voting Republican.

 

[Stevicus]

For the most part, though I haven't taken any CRT courses. I think #4 needs a little more explanation, though.

Keep in mind that sociology isn't just pulled out of someone's hat. Its tenets are evidence-derived.

I think the question was answered in the OP article, in the last paragraph. The person considered the man behind Critical Race Theory (Derrick Bell), he himself didn't know what it was, other than "telling the truth," which seems clear enough.

Vinay Harpalani told me, “Someone asked him once, ‘What do you say about critical race theory?’ ” Bell first replied, “I don’t know what that is,” but then offered, “To me, it means telling the truth, even in the face of criticism.”

I don't know why it would be necessary to complicate the obvious.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Everything is political, but not everything is politicized.
CRT has been around for decades, but it wasn't until recently that the right wing discovered it could be used to scare voters into voting Republican.

Whatever. I am just trying to find out what it is. It is kind of amorphous in that it is not really well defined as far as I can tell. I have read many different definitions from CRT promoters.

 

[metis]

In the good old days, we called it "institutionalized racism", thus a person can be influenced by it even if they're totally unaware of it.

And btw, this applies to all people, not just those who are white [or whatever].

 

[savagewind]

So, have you figured out that it means, yet?
Which part of your quotation sounded bad? Which part worried you, and why?

Did you read the link in the OP?
Liberal Values

No, I didn't read it but I am trying to read it now.

Maybe, some people think that to teach about race means that there is a race. Why is it called a race? I think that because it isn't a race people should stop calling it a race!

I am and I shall never be in a race against anyone especially anyone because of what he or she looks like on the outside.

The black/white problem is real and should be taught in schools. Why not?