Creationists go to court: School science standards are unconstitutional

[Father Heathen]

Because I've long since made up my mind.

Willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty are nothing to be proud of.
God wouldn't have gifted you with the ability to reason had he intended for you to forgo its use.

 

[Athan]

Uh? You're moving the goal posts there.

Which means that I have to use words to "tell" you about my God, but those words are already written, and you can access them yourself. I don't have to write them for you. I don't have to tell you. You can be "told" by easily read science books.

You're trying to tell me that your God is not an actual being. That's as ridiculous as your claim that brainless forces organized the first human being.

I didn't mean it to sound like science itself is my God.

Then why didn't you make that distinction at the outset?

 

[Athan]

Willful ignorance....

Except that it's not willful, nor is it ignorance. You're wrong on both counts.

 

[Athan]

If you did, this debate couldn't possibly happen.

But it is happening, despite the overwhelming evidence that destroys the spirit in the toenail argument. This is why it's time for me to leave you to your mendacity before one of us gets banned.

 

[philbo]

But it is happening, despite the overwhelming evidence that destroys the spirit in the toenail argument. This is why it's time for me to leave you to your mendacity before one of us gets banned.

That it is happening means you do not have overwhelming evidence.

As for mendacity - please, point to a single instance of me lying about anything, or apologise.

 

[Ouroboros]

You're trying to tell me that your God is not an actual being.

Correct. God is a force.

That's as ridiculous as your claim that brainless forces organized the first human being.

It's only ridiculous to the ignorant.

Then why didn't you make that distinction at the outset?

I didn't. You did. You didn't read what I said but interpreted it the way you wanted to.

You're not worth my time. I won't respond to you anymore.

 

[johnhanks]

Three times I've asked Athan to explain the claim he made in post 99 that

atheists are ... all "against" us in terms of how they choose to think and live.

- specifically, to describe what he thinks is the way atheists choose to live, and how this imagined uniform lifestyle is a threat to him; three times he's ducked the question.

In the same post he said

If you are not with the Lord, then you are against him. I suspect all anti-theists hate that kind of thinking because it gives them zero room to obfuscate.

but three times has declined the invitation to elaborate on the "obfuscation" anti-theists (whoever they are) are denied by his binary thinking.

Athan. you are so far making a pretty poor job of defending your position.

 

[TheMusicTheory]

Athan seems much like most christians I know: Unable to fathom the actual intellectual motivations behind non-theists in terms outside of "religion".