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Comparitive Politics of RF Members.

dust1n

Zindīq
A very blunt instrument, like the question on marijuana, as Draka pointed out it is yes or no, someone who would be against it for recreational use only but in favour of it for treatment has to say they want it legalised, this doesn't necessarily mean you are liberal, imo. It seems loaded towards a more liberal result.

That would be a libertarian result...

the left and right is only a measure of economic standing.
 
That would be a libertarian result...

the left and right is only a measure of economic standing.

Wouldn't the libetarian view be that there should be no legislation on personal use of drugs, not that the use should be limited to cancer patients?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Some of the questions are slanted

Most of them are slanted ! Some right-wingers accuse us of a leftward slant. Some left-wingers accuse us of a rightward slant. But it's important to realise that this isn't a survey, and these aren't questions. They're propositions - an altogether different proposition. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are more moderate. That's how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass.


Some of the propositions are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger buzzwords in the mind of the user, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.



Incidentally, our test is not another internet personality classification tool. The essence of our site is the model for political analysis. The test is simply a demonstration of it.





My position on The Political Compass™ is at odds with the politicians I support


Politicians often speak in codes that disguise actual policy, with the aim of appealing to as broad a spectrum of the public as possible.


While the individual may identify with particular figures, if their positions and the consequences of those positions are acted upon, they may disagree.


The propositions in the test give the respondent an all-too-rare chance to consider many situations. Their reactions are sometimes quite different from the positions of their favourite politicians.


For example, a conservative person may be straightforwardly opposed to universal health care, but disagree with a proposition suggesting that the quality of a child's health care should be governed by the health of the parents' finances.




You should have a "don't know" option


This makes it too easy for people to duck difficult issues. By forcing people to take a positive or negative stance, the propositions make people really evaluate their feelings. Often people find they wanted to select 'don't know' mainly because they'd never really thought about the idea.


There have to be other measures for a political compass


Great. Tell us about them so that we can consider adding them. But surely our two axis arrangement is a vast improvement on the single one that you've put up with for more than 2 centuries.


You've got liberals on the right. Don't you know they're left ?


This response is exclusively American. Elsewhere neo-liberalism is understood in standard political science terminology - deriving from mid 19th Century Manchester Liberalism, which campaigned for free trade on behalf of the capitalist classes of manufacturers and industrialists. In other words, laissez-faire or economic libertarianism.



In the United States, "liberals" are understood to believe in leftish economic programmes such as welfare and publicly funded medical care, while also holding liberal social views on matters such as law and order, peace, sexuality, women's rights etc. The two don't necessarily go together.



Our Compass rightly separates them. Otherwise, how would you label someone like the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan who, on the one hand, pleased the left by supporting strong economic safety nets for the underprivileged, but angered social liberals with his support for the Vietnam War, the Cold War and other key conservative causes ?


FAQ ... The Political Compass
 
It seems this was originally on a welsh socialist party webpage, even though it is supposed to be a secret.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Some of the propositions are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger buzzwords in the mind of the user, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.

This is the problem. They're not nearly as opaque or clever as they think they are, so you have to constantly gauge and balance your answers between honestly answering the question as written, and knowing what they're actually asking, and how they're going to score it.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Wouldn't the libetarian view be that there should be no legislation on personal use of drugs, not that the use should be limited to cancer patients?


The latter would be 'less libertarian' than full blown legalization - personal freedom is expanded a little bit with medical marijuana, expanded more with legalization.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
This is the problem. They're not nearly as opaque or clever as they think they are, so you have to constantly gauge and balance your answers between honestly answering the question as written, and knowing what they're actually asking, and how they're going to score it.


That's a good point; I don't think they anticipated participators to be so clever. :)
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Those crazy Welsh socialists ... what will they come up with next?

left-pizzabagel.jpg
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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Same way I find everything out, I freakin' googled it :rolleyes:

Wait. Are you telling me there's some type of device which allows you to structure queries and submit them to a large database of distributed information, which then returns relevant results based on your query? Is that what this "google" is?

If this is true, this could mean the end of people asking questions they don't know the answer to, because they could simply utilize this knowledge device!
 
Wait. Are you telling me there's some type of device which allows you to structure queries and submit them to a large database of distributed information, which then returns relevant results based on your query? Is that what this "google" is?

If this is true, this could mean the end of people asking questions they don't know the answer to, because they could simply utilize this knowledge device!

:eek: :no:

googling
a form of divination by natural phenomena, especially from inspection of the entrails of animal sacrifices. Also called extispicy, googlepication. —googlplex, aruspex, n. — haruspical, adj.
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm, I think a lot of the questions are loaded and that it doesn't give an accurate depiction of one's political allignment, I dunno 'bout you but I don't think my results are correct. I got this:

PoliticalCompass.jpg


Economic Left/Right: ROFL
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -LuLz
 
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