The Anointed
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Since Solomon was gifted with Godly wisdom, his satires were a commentary on the futility of this life. And because the "sacred mystery" of the kingdom was yet to be clarified only after the outpouring of holy spirit received by Jesus' disciples at Pentecost, his words still convey the same meaning that many today lament. What is the point of this life, full of vanity and suffering? We have a full understanding now, as Daniel foretold we would have, in this "time of the end". (Daniel 12:4; 9-10)
Do you believe that God's word is his....or man's?
If it is God's word, then he controls what is included in it. If it is man's word, then God is deliberately misleading the whole world....yet, God said that satan is the greatest deceiver in this world. (1 John 5:19) We choose who to believe.....but, do people know when they are deceived? The master deceiver has had a very long time to perfect his craft.
It was a demon impersonating Samuel. The prophet was dead, and Saul had lost God's favor. If his living prophets refused to speak to Saul, why would a dead prophet speak to a man, using a forbidden means of communication, to tell him anything? Use your reasoning skills. Let the Bible itself explain.
This passage has lost something in the translation. The Bible does not contradict itself. The earthquake was a strong one and it is not at all unusual for graves to be upturned and the bodies of the dead exposed. A reading of that vague passage can also be understood to indicate that it was the people who observed the exposed bodies who went into the city to report it.
As I have mentioned, "holy ones" are spoken about in the OT part of the Bible, but they are not part of those with "the heavenly calling". Only those taken into the new covenant, instituted by Jesus just before his death, are those he promised to be "saints" (holy ones) in a special capacity to become 'kings and priests' and rule with Christ in his Kingdom. (Revelation 20:6) No pre-Christian servant of God had that expectation....not even the apostles, at first.
Now, if the bodies of those saints were in fact resurrected, where are they? Where is there any mention of them after that brief account, and only in one of the gospels, by Matthew? Surely it would have been a big deal? No other mention is made of it. Or what these "saints" did or where they went.
The resurrection of the saints is said to be to immortal life in heaven. These "saints" were supposedly flesh and blood, walking about. That does not fit the Bible's scenario at all. It is clearly a misinterpretation.
This is also misinterpreted. Jesus was dead in his tomb for all three days. He did not go anywhere during that time, any more than Jonah went anywhere whilst confined to the belly of the sea creature who swallowed him. Jesus said that he would be in the heart of the earth just like Jonah was in the belly of the fish. (Matthew 12:38-40)
The Bible says that in the spirit, he "made a proclaimation to the spirits in prison"...what spirits are these?
I'll let Peter explain.....
"For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, in order to bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit, in which also he went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison, who in former times did not obey, when God waited patiently in the days of Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water." (1 Peter 3:18-20 - NRSV)
You can see if you read this scripture, that people assume that Jesus was resurrected before the three days he said he would be in the tomb....but he was dead all that time. So when he was resurrected, he did go to deliver a judgment message to the wicked spirits who were disobedient in Noah's day. It was not the spirits of former humans. There are no such things as spirits of the dead.
What prison are these spirits occupying?
"And the angels who did not keep their own position, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deepest darkness for the judgment of the great day." (Jude 1:6 - NRSV)
"For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of deepest darkness to be kept until the judgment; and if he did not spare the ancient world, even though he saved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood on a world of the ungodly; and if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction and made them an example of what is coming to the ungodly". (2 Peter 2:4-6 NRSV)
The "spirits" were rebel angels who materialized in Noah's day and caused the world of that time to be plunged into an extreme level of violence and immorality. God put a stop to it by eliminating that world and its wicked inhabitants, and forcing those wicked angels back to the spirit realm where he placed them under restraint. Not in "hell" as this erroneous translation indicates but in what is called "Tartarus". It is a condition, more than an actual prison. They were no longer able to take on human flesh.....a restriction, but not something that makes it impossible for them to cause trouble, which they continue to do.
Deeje wrote…….. You can see if you read this scripture, that people assume that Jesus was resurrected before the three days he said he would be in the tomb....but he was dead all that time. So when he was resurrected, he did go to deliver a judgment message to the wicked spirits who were disobedient in Noah's day. It was not the spirits of former humans. There are no such things as spirits of the dead.
The Anointed………. Crucifixion was a rite in the mysteries of many countries and especially those of Egypt, See ‘The Secret Doctrines,’ vol. 11, p. 558. The initiated adept, who had successfully passed all the trials, was tied to a cross, deep inside a Temple Crypt or cave, he was then drugged and plunged into a deep sleep in which state, in the darkness of the bowels of the earth, he remained for three days and three nights, during which time his spirit=mind, is said to have descended into Hades to communicate with the Gods.
You must continue to believe as you were taught by the false prophets and their underlings. While I continue to believe the truth as revealed in the scriptures, it was while he was dead in the flesh but alive in the spirit and before he was resurrected in a physical body that could eat and drink like all human beings that he descended into hades and preached the Good News to the dead
New World Translation of the few Scriptures that the church of Emperor Constantine had his priests compiled into the canon of the Roman Church; Luke 24: Cleophas, who with his son Simon, who had met the risen Christ, as they had walked to Emmaus, came back to Jerusalem and entered the darkened room in which were the 11 disciples, just then Jesus appeared also in the room and the disciples were terrified believing that he was a spirit, (The disciples believed in spirits)Jesus then said to them; "24: 38; "Why are you troubled, and why is it that doubts come up in your hearts? (39) See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: feel me and see; because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as you behold that I have, etc.
This was after he had been dead in the flesh and alive in spirit and had descended into hades to preach to the dead and after his physical body came out of the tomb.
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