Inquire of God
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It is a Kingdom ruled by an eternally righteous loving perfect merciful King who wants us to become like Him and He has said so.
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Communism, Capitalism, and Heaven
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
Inquire of God
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I am not certain what your words mean. I am sorry I do not understand.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
it's an old story ....I grew up with it
and God created Man a little less than the angels
and said to them.....
That Man is less than you, he is fragile
Therefore seek after him that he stub not his toe nor dash his head
one third of heaven, led by God's Favored said .....NAY!
that Man is less than we are.....he should be made to serve us!
a fight broke out....swords drawn
and one third of heaven fell
but there is nothing wrong with the logic
we humans do so.....unto anything less than we are
even unto each other
and to whom?......do we bear resemblance
Inquire of God
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I am not sure how to reply, thank you for your words though.
Sorry, I think that is not true. I recommend to read what Bible tells about righteousness, I think there is many interesting scriptures about it. Here are few examples:
The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom, But the perverse tongue will be cut off. The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable, But the mouth of the wicked is perverse.
Pro. 10:31-32
The thoughts of the righteous are just, But the advice of the wicked is deceitful… … A righteous man regards the life of his animal, But the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel… … A righteous person is cautious in friendship, But the way of the wicked leads them astray.
Pro. 12:5,10,26
A righteous man hates lies, But a wicked man brings shame and disgrace…
Pro. 13:5,9
A righteous man walks in integrity. Blessed are his children after him.
Pro. 20:7
There are those who covet greedily all the day long; But the righteous give and don't withhold.
Pro. 21:26
The righteous care about justice for the poor. The wicked aren't concerned about knowledge.
Pro. 29:7
Righteousness in Bible means wisdom of the just, right understand that leads to right actions, not because person tries to gain something, but because he understands it is good and right and wants it freely.
I think belief is always a choice. I choose not to believe in Santa Claus, because there is no good reason to believe in him. I choose to believe in Bible, because it has shown knowledge and understanding that I think people would not have without God.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
No. You are compelled to not believe in Santa because the evidence isn't there and / or doesn't convince you.
If beliefs were truly a choice, then you COULD "choose" to believe in Santa despite the lack of evidence.
So in your own words, by including the "because the evidence..." part, you have actually acknowledged my point.
In your opinion.
Not in my opinion. So I can not believe it. In the same way you can not believe in Santa. Or any of the thousands of gods you don't believe in either, for that matter.
Belief = not a choice.
If you still feel like arguing this point, then actually answer my question which you clearly dodged:
Could you choose right here, right now, to honestly and sincerely believe in Santa?
If your answer is "no", then you acknowledge the point I made.
And to be perfectly honest with you... if you answer "yes", I won't believe you.
Be honest now.... So.... could you? Sincerely and honestly?
So, a hierarchical aristocracy.
Inquire of God
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But not like the ones in earth history and no one is dissatisfied with their position and the King is perfect, righteous, beloved, worshipped and emulated by all.
Certainly sounds like a well entrenched master-slave relationship to me.
capitalism only exists where service to self exists without service to all as self. in heaven there is no personal property because it all belongs to god in service to other as self and service to self.
Au contraire.
I'ld say creativeness comes from / is motivated by people trying to meet their needs - whatever they may be.
No clue what you mean by "self actualization" though.
In any case, I call it "boring" because the quest always is more interesting then the end result. In fact, everything is pretty much a quest.
Once I dreamed about owning a nice drumset. I saved up and was on a mission to get me that drumset. Then I had enough money and bought. That need was met, only to make place for a new need: learning how to play the drums. So I learned how to play the drums. The need was met. Again it was replaced with a new need: learning how to play the drums well and better.
This need will NEVER be met, because no matter how good I get - I can always get even better
Once I was single.
Then I wanted a girlfriend.
Then I wanted that girlfriend to be a life partner to share a life and house with.
Then I want kids with that life partner.
Now I want my kids to grow up well.
And I'm pretty sure that 20 years from now, I'll want grandkids.
Etc etc etc
Life / existence is interesting, precisely because you have to work for everything. Nothing magically appears simply because you want it. That would make life incredibly dull and boring imo.
So an eternity of having my needs met with no major run-up to it where I actually have to get my hands dirty to get to that ever moving end-goal.... NO thanks. That would not be a life worth living imo.
maslow's hierarch of needs explains it.
https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html
these are the seven chakras/seals being opened. when the 7th seal is opened the Unconditional Way is revealed as being ONE whole, oneness, monism
Rev 8:1
for a moment one is dumbfounded by the revelation
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then become NOW. God is NOW
thy kingdom come
a person's body is their kingdom that the spirit dwells within
in some cases the kingdom enslaves the spirit.
Inquire of God
Member
I don't see it that way.
Inquire of God
Member
Not sure why you are telling me this.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe there is no prediction for that.
Muffled
Jesus in me
Ibelieve we could ask the people of Paradise, Pennsylvania.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe there is no such thing.