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Well, duh! That’s what idolatry is, and that’s what I’ve been saying: an idol is an object to which we ascribe deific power and subsequently worship. That’s an idol.
And where did you earn your master’s degree in theology?
Yes, I know JEHOVAH Elohiym, and here is what I think, which is what the Bible says:
Not necessarily.
I disagree. And idolatry isn’t usually about God; it’s usually some other deity. Even a misrepresentation of God isn’t ascribed power of itself in most cases.
Well, that’d explain why your concept and theological underpinning is wack.
Except that most Christian images aren’t ascribed deific powers and worshiped as deities, themselves.
No, idolatry is ascribing some object with deific power and worshiping it.
No shame intended, rather an observation as to why your theology doesn’t work. It lacks basis, because you lack schooling in it. I wouldn’t ask medical advice from someone who “loves medicine” but didn’t go to medical school and doesn’t have a license to practice medicine. That person just doesn’t have the schooling and the background. I “love cars,” but I don’t work on them, because I’m not a certified mechanic. You see how this works? You can “love Jesus” all you like, and you can “love the Bible” all you like, but that doesn’t magically make you an expert on theology or interpretation.
I hope you don’t quit your day job, because a theologian you ain’t.It seems that you are using a premise that since Christians "allegedly" do not literally get down on their knees concerning images and objects they are not uncircumcised; Not knowing there is a physical circumcision and a spiritual circumcision.
It seems you are using the physical to deny the spiritual, or all aspects of worship in which to negate graven images and idol worship.
Psa 96:5 For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.
Psa 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1Jn 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
Gal 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
observations of images and idols man soweth that are allegedly of the body of Christ which is of God.
NT says no man has seen God yet NT believers have an image of God.
But I am sure this will all be labeled as conspiracy theory above.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Joh 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
1Jn 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
1Ti 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
... and yet you vomit this nonsense-disguised-as-theology As if you know what you’re talking about, and apparently spend a great deal of time dabbling in something you clearly do not understand.
It seems that you don’t understand that “all the gods of the nations” were statues, or effigies that were understood to contain and exude deific power — and they were worshiped. That’s a far, far, far, far cry from a picture of Jesus on a postcard, or even from veneration of the cross.
Judging from your post here, it doesn’t seem that you have.
I think that some who misinterpret Torah and the NT might consider them thus in light of their own, misdirected interpretations. But that’s sort of like the patient telling the doctor how to do the surgery and prescribe the treatment. Or the client telling the attorney how to practice law.
No, they’re called “idols” because they’re statues that were ascribed deific powers.”
Using this logic, then, since we’re the image of God, and we can see that image, then we are idols. See? This is why you shouldn’t play with theological matches.
No. The idol doesn’t attempt to “represent God,” so it can’t, by definition, be a misrepresentation of God.
But that’s not what you said in your earlier post. You said that since God could not be seen, then to try to make God be seen through some image was what constituted idolatry. I said that, since we are the image of God, and we can be seen, then that makes us idols, using your logic. Again: this is why you shouldn’t play with theological matches.
This is the most truthful thing you’ve said thus far.
No, an idol is the god.
We are an image...
Yeah, but unfortunately, you’re not doing that.
