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Charlottesville: Who reported on it correctly?

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by icehorse, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. Sleeppy

    Sleeppy Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.

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    Matthew 21:12-13

    And Jesus entered into the temple of God, and did cast forth all those selling and buying in the temple, and the tables of the money-changers he overturned, and the seats of those selling the doves, and he said to them, 'It has been written, My house a house of prayer shall be called, but you did make it a den of robbers.'


    Are you educated in social science?

    1) Protest is natural.
    2) Protest is a recurring social phenomenon.
    3) Repetition is scientific.
     
  2. UpperLimits

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    Wow. I never knew that Antifa and BLM were religious experiences... Ya learn something new everyday....Sort of.... I guess....
    And the one thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history.

    Else: Why do these protest groups like Antifa and BLM think that they can use the principles and techniques of Nazi's, and not be thought of as such? As much as the MSM would like you to think so, I have seen the raw news reels, and these guys are anything but peaceful in their protests.

    So keep up your protesting. I know it's natural for you to do so. I hypothesize you'll continue to protest on a recurring basis as it has already been observed many times.
     
  3. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Why are you assuming BLM advocates NAZI techniques?
     
  4. Sleeppy

    Sleeppy Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.

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    Religion resulted from and pertains to everyday life. --You have to test your own logic, at some point.

    But, that wasn't at its foundation a religious reaction from Jesus. At it's foundation, it was an evolutionary reaction. Jesus' empathetic efficiency told him that social welfare precedes individual capitalism. Jesus did not charge for his ministry, or even his 'works'. But for perfection he did charge, that anyone being a son of God may not divide the inheritance, but take it in common with his brother.

    Cain and Abel brought their offerings apart. Jesus therefore told you, "leave there your gift before the altar, and go -- first be reconciled to your brother, and then having come bring your gift." There's a logical chain that needs to be followed to understand and retain these truths.



    Protest is a natural reaction. There is a causal chain involved. Your particular ignorance of the underlying social science permits you to make false assumptions. In order for the protests to stop, there needs to be a break in the causal chain.


    **No mention of actual Neo-Nazi's or KKK, or.. actual domestic terrorists?
     
  5. UpperLimits

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    So if someone uses a technique, but doesn't "advocate it" (presumably for others to follow their example.), then that automatically makes it okay???

    Or that the end justifies the means?

    As I said, I've seen the news reels. You'd have a really difficult time convincing me that I didn't actually "see," what I actually saw. The case is pretty much closed as far as I'm concerned.
     
  6. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    Ever get into the official BLM website? It does not advocate the use of violence, but no organization, including them, has complete control over all its members.

    If one is going to accuse them of being a violent organization because some of their members may not follow the rules, then you'd also have to declare the Republican Party a violent one as well with what we saw at some of the Trump rallies.

    I do not advocate for any non-military group to use violence as even my avatar should suggest.
     
  7. Stevicus

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    All websites, even the most radical, carry many of the same disclaimers disavowing violence and banning any advocacy of violence from their websites. That's pretty standard. Even Stormfront had such rules for their site, but they were still associated with violence nonetheless.
     
  8. UpperLimits

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    Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself.

    And I'm sure if the Communist revolutionists had set up a web site in their day, it would have been all about "Peace, Love and Equality - And, a chicken in every pot!! And the murder of the Tzar and his family was just the work of a few "extremists" in the group. After all, "no organization, including them, has complete control over all its members."
     
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    Yeah... It's called a return to common sense.
     
  10. Sleeppy

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    The "common" sense has always been a retaliatory one.
     
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