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Can you think of any situations where forced sterilization should be used?
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
If you are a drug addict (particularly heroin or meth), you should be on forced birth control until you successfully stay off drugs for a certain period of time.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
No, I didn't mean castration, but getting one's tubes tied perhaps
Liu
Well-Known Member
So the purpose would be to hinder the person from having offspring.
Well, that would be a way of avoiding children to be born with severe health issues if the parent has a genetic disease or another disease which would affect their children.
I'm not a big fan of forcing anything on anyone, but that seems like a comparatively justifiable reason.
Well, that would be a way of avoiding children to be born with severe health issues if the parent has a genetic disease or another disease which would affect their children.
I'm not a big fan of forcing anything on anyone, but that seems like a comparatively justifiable reason.
No.
Famine joined by lousy politics.
It is my stance that no one has any rights as such.
Instead, we are granted gifts by others, and for largely political reasons those are often misdescribed as "rights".
If anything, that is particularly true of so-called reproductive rights. They are better described as "expectations of protection, respect and favor from others out of consideration for one's offspring".
So, by my perspective, you are in effect asking whether other people should deny you a modicum of consideration if you end up having offspring or attempting to.
And the only honest answer that I can give you to that is that it will depend entirely on how able and willing they feel in creating the necessary space to make you and your hypothetical offspring confortable.
That is probably something worth gauging before one makes such a decision.
Certainly in England, there have been cases where the courts have allowed a person with diminished mental capacity and who could not consent to the procedure because of that to be sterilised.
Here is the full decision for anyone interested Re_A (medical treatment: male sterilisation) [2000]
Here is the full decision for anyone interested Re_A (medical treatment: male sterilisation) [2000]
In the Hyperion books, everyone is implanted with some sterilization thingy. That's because they've basically figured out how to live forever, so obviously, you can't have everyone keep cranking out new babies if no one ever dies.
So, if we become immortal, that would be a good reason--- or, in some other way, exceed the population threshold that can be sustained by our planet. I mean, if there were irrefutable evidence that we cannot have more people on this planet, that might be a good time to start sterilizing people.
So, if we become immortal, that would be a good reason--- or, in some other way, exceed the population threshold that can be sustained by our planet. I mean, if there were irrefutable evidence that we cannot have more people on this planet, that might be a good time to start sterilizing people.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
That's very Catholic of you
Thanks. I'm trying. I'm becoming more and more pro-life again.That's very Catholic of you
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I always keep in mind that abortion hurts women
I think I might be in favor of forcing people to have a reversible sterilization until they are 21. (Not sure if such a thing exists-- wouldn't want it to be surgical, more like an implant.)
At 21, the sterilization is reversed.
Yes, this reduces personal freedom, no doubt. But I cannot see any benefit in someone less than 21 years old having a child.
At 21, the sterilization is reversed.
Yes, this reduces personal freedom, no doubt. But I cannot see any benefit in someone less than 21 years old having a child.
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
Any place that has been at war for more than a year should pay
a social grant to people who volunteer to be sterilized.
Handing out food-parcels to over-breeders in the midst of war
is worse than just randomly shooting people.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
Your honesty is appreciated
How "Christian" of you!
Jonathan Ainsley Bain
Logical Positivist
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.