1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Can you answer my post?About something in the book of hebrews?

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Frank Goad, Oct 9, 2019.

  1. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    664
    Ratings:
    +98
    Religion:
    Officially methodist.But goes back and forth between the idea of the soul with methodism and jehovah's witness.
    Hebrews 2:9.How did jesus taste death for all man here?:confused:
     
  2. Deeje

    Deeje Avid Bible Student
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2009
    Messages:
    9,971
    Ratings:
    +5,242
    Religion:
    Christian JW
    Jesus died for all men....but not all will accept his sacrifice.
    His life is the payment of the debt that Adams left for all his children. Adam sold us all into slavery to sin and death. As our redeemer, Jesus paid the price for our release.

    See A Corresponding Ransom for All — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  3. Frank Goad

    Frank Goad Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Messages:
    664
    Ratings:
    +98
    Religion:
    Officially methodist.But goes back and forth between the idea of the soul with methodism and jehovah's witness.
    Thanks!:)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Brickjectivity

    Brickjectivity Veteran Member
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2012
    Messages:
    25,530
    Ratings:
    +8,018
    Religion:
    Liberal Christian
    Too complicated to explain to you, because you do not seem to have studied the context the verse is in. By explaining it to you I might hurt you. That is why people shouldn't be teaching this stuff in the pulpits after just reading it. This is something the writer of Hebrews understands, too; because he is Jewish and believes in the principles of tzim tzum whether or not he believes in all the kabbalah stuff. He believes that knowledge is something which unfolds and grows in you like a flower not something that you just get from a sentence. In fact its not just a Jewish concept, but it is a principle that is very solidly demonstrable in many areas of study. The words of the writer of Hebrews have levels of meaning, and by that I mean that the meaning is obscured until you have studied a lot more. You can't even explain it to someone who hasn't studied the right subjects.

    What I can say about it is that you should ignore it for now and maybe never worry about it. It is a an interesting passage, but it isn't for everybody. Its very involved and is spoken to learned people who are experts in texts that you and I aren't familiar with. Maybe that sounds strange, but it was the case with many, many learning systems in ancient times. They would couch lessons in terms that outsiders could not understand not for harm but to prevent harm to the student and to others.

    Consider the damage that preachers of prosperity have done using biblical texts. How could they wield the biblical canon to harm other people? This special resource has been turned into a weapon against widows. How? They weren't prepared for what they read. Hebrews is a text with great depth and power, but its not for everybody.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. KenS

    KenS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2013
    Messages:
    7,925
    Ratings:
    +2,121
    Religion:
    Judeo/Christian
    He became man and, though innocent, paid an ultimate price bringing man back into communion with God if they so choose.



    Colossians 2:13-15 The Voice (VOICE)
    13 And when your flesh was still uncircumcised—dead in transgression and swathed in its sinful nature—it was God who brought us to life with Him, forgave all our sins, and 14 eliminated the massive debt we incurred by the law that stood against us. He took it all away; He nailed it to the cross. But that’s not all. 15 He disarmed those who once ruled over us—those who had overpowered us. Like captives of war, He put them on display to the world to show His victory over them by means of the cross.

    Philippians 2:6-11 The Voice (VOICE)
    6 Though He was in the form of God,
    He chose not to cling to equality with God;
    7 But He poured Himself out to fill a vessel brand new;
    a servant in form
    and a man indeed.
    The very likeness of humanity,
    8 He humbled Himself,
    obedient to death—
    a merciless death on the cross!
    9 So God raised Him up to the highest place
    and gave Him the name above all.
    10 So when His name is called,
    every knee will bow,
    in heaven, on earth, and below.
    11 And every tongue will confess
    “Jesus, the Anointed One, is Lord,”
    to the glory of God our Father!

    Ephesians 2:8-9 The Voice (VOICE)
    8-9 For it’s by God’s grace that you have been saved. You receive it through faith. It was not our plan or our effort. It is God’s gift, pure and simple. You didn’t earn it, not one of us did, so don’t go around bragging that you must have done something amazing.
     
  6. LightofTruth

    LightofTruth Active Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2019
    Messages:
    836
    Ratings:
    +120
    Religion:
    Scripture
    Death means to be dead and alive means to be living. Except, of course, your mind has been warped by Christian theology. The majority of Christendom doesn't know that death means dead. to them death means to continue living.:D
     
    • Useful Useful x 1
Loading...