SoyLeche said:
The large majority of these conflicting positions are coming from groups that only use the Bible, so your logic doesn't quite work.
Not the topic of this thread, but if God gave them to the LDS church then they are there for the world to see. We could argue this for days, but I believe they come from God, you don't. It all comes down to that.
For you to assume this all has no bearing on the topic would only be a bias attempt to not listen to the the facts of others outside the LDS orgainz.,the topic your group opened,but if you continually look at the infected ,twisted,perverted versions or branches of so called christianity, faith,doctrines,theologies etc and not inspect the root of where they came from, you are like a farmer who see's all the distorted,rotten fruit on his branches and sits back and says maybe it will all change on it's own and he never addresses the condition of the root or soil, the very life giving source for pure and good fruit .
Inspect your fruit guys,if we don't abide in him he won't abide in us meanin our lives are vanity without his truth .
Jesus says He is the vine we are the branches,what we have here are so many false religions producing bad fruits or doctrines such as the marriage thing regarding Jesus, spiritual babies,celestial marriage,we pick and choose what sounds good and looks good and that is beneficial to our lifestyles.
Mind you many are clearly and honestly deceived into following such false doctrine and that is too bad,
Let me see now,if God wrote the word through inspired men,canonized through several greek scholars,theologians and substantiated verified,authenticated, through historical,geographaical and archaelogical finds, not to mention thousands of new testament manuscripts,artifacts,cities etc. etc found.
Not to mention the timelines , fluency and continuity of the scriptures are like a tightly wooven garment from one piece of thread and then certain people say, God gave further revealtions to special individuals throughout history that totally contridicts holy scripture and depicts a whole different gospel.
What is up with that !!!!
He would be contridicting himself, creating division,heresy and confusion,as this is evident in our religious community today ,that being division ,then Jesus is either responsible for all the false doctrine/religions or man is ,My money is on man.
There is only one truth, Jesus either was in the beginning and created all things as says in Col 1:16,Heb,John1:1 all things were created by him,including marriage.or he was created and was never eternal but only a man.
This by the way, does fall under our topic because this type of heresy such as, was Jesus married,did he have babies,Jesus being lucifer's brother,we becoming gods,marrying in heaven,cliches such as, as god was once as we are and we will become as god, all have a veneer of Christianity but have no truth and were inspired by man not God
How many books do you think are out there that claim to be inspired as the Bible,but are nothing more than 1 man's revealtion eventually becoming a religion.
Let me just make this final statement that your doctrine contridicts the word of God and if you researched for yourself my friend you would find many things to question.
I just spent the day yesterday listening to personal testimonies of people who where leaders in the LDS and evidence from those who have thoroughly investigated the LDS being members themself for 5 ,10 15,20 even 50 yrs and of all the doctrinal errors, orgainizational policies and control that governing body have over the doctrines, the threat of disassociation when personal association with non members is revealed even with families,all of which professes to bring unity ,but just the opposite was the outcome.
This I;m afraid has everything to do with the topic of false doctrine, false teachings false scriptures and misquoted scripture and these all produce false Christ's, false gods,false converts and false hope.