waitasec
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can someone please explain to me the difference
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FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry
Reference : BBC News - Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry
Reference : BBC News - Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry
waitasec
Veteran Member
It has been quite a historic day for this issue.
waitasec
Veteran Member
ain't that the truth...
What facts and logic do you deem pertinent.
ron4711
Member
Most religions teach from authority rather than reason. This is why monarchy is so entertwined with religion. Both teach people to be unquestioning followers.
Same-sex marriage has been banned by state law for over a decade. But the current crop of idiots in the state legislature thought that a law might be too easily overturned, so they opted for a constitutional amendment.
waitasec
Veteran Member
the fact there is an imbalance in fairness
and the logic that says a double standard is being applied
can you tell explain the difference the OP is addressing?
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
No. That's why, even though I'm against homosexual marriage on principle, I've never been against legalizing it.
Harmonious
Well-Known Member
This is the thing. My objection to homosexual marriage is religious in nature. If someone who didn't believe in my religion decided to marry against the tenets of my religion but not against theirs (or the lack thereof), I have no right to force the tenets of my religion on those people.
If the government grants people rights based on the status of their marriage, then marriage (as defined by the state that grants rights to married people) should not choose religious definitions and objections when forming the parameters of what defines a marriage.
chinu
chinu
The difference is that marriges do not need donations to plan their honeymoons, where as religions need donations to plan their honeymoons.
It's really rather simple, everyone can marry one other person of the oppisite sex.
None of us can marry another person of the same sex. It's the same for everyone.
waitasec
Veteran Member
sorry, you didn't answer the question.
Ghost of a Rider
Member
Not quite. Let me quote my own post from page two with a few minor word changes to give you an idea how rights are being denied:
"...if gay marriage is allowed then the hetero Christian has the right to marry a person of the opposite sex and the choice not to marry a person of the same sex according to his beliefs and desires. At the same time, a homosexual has the choice to marry a person of the opposite sex and the right to marry a person of the same sex according to his beliefs and desires. But, if gay marriage is banned, while it's true that no one, heterosexuals and homosexuals alike, has the right to marry a person of the same sex, the hetero Christian still has the right to marry the opposite sex according to his/her beliefs and desires but the homosexual does not have the right to marry the same sex according to his beliefs and desires."
So no, it's not the same for everyone. What good is it to the homosexual who desires to marry the same sex to know that heterosexuals cannot marry the same sex the same as him when he knows the heterosexual has no desire to do so anyway? It's a BS argument that overlooks the fact that the Christian gets what he wants either way but the homosexual does not.
For me, it is not a proposition that the homosexual should be allowed to marry the same sex but rather, a question as to why they shouldn't be allowed to marry the same sex. Beyond their outdated religious ideals and their own definition of the word "marriage", the Christian gay marriage opponents have no practical reasons not to allow it.
The pertinent facts are there remains sufficient religious and personal bias to prevent a majority of Americas from passing laws protecting the right of Gay marriage.
You're not going to easily defeat that bias with logic and facts. However if you can appeal to their compassion with the right media and rhetoric you're likely to make quicker progress.
Thyat's quite a spin you're doing there. Are you dizzy yet?
Same can be said for:
It's really very simple, everyone is free to practice a monotheistic religion.
No one is allowed to be atheist, polytheistic, or henotheistic.
Sounds delightful and fair, isn't it? I mean, it's not like you're not allowed to practice ANY religion. Just the ones we like.
waitasec
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your inclination to ducking is noted.