Can reason be every bit as harmful as lack of reason because of human failings? And logic also?

[Parsimony]

It's possible for a person with superior reasoning to take advantage of someone with inferior reasoning by cheating them out of something. Or perhaps better said, a person may use inferior reasoning that sounds good to the listener in order to achieve some goal which they were aware of by using their own better reasoning. Scams come to mind. Such a thing would depend on poor reasoning or ignorance in the victim, so that would call for people to learn how to better reason in order to combat it.

 

[paarsurrey]

No.
Reason is one of the best tools we have.
It's a reason that I'm not running around with an AK47 yelling "Death to the infidels!".
It's also the reason I get vaccinated against tetanus & other nasty things.
Gotta get one for shingles too now.

Well, you have right of freedom of action to do anything you like? Haven't you? Please
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Reason that becomes unreasonable ceases to be reason at all.

Is it from religion or from science? If from science then please quote the specific discipline of science.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Reason can be harmful because of closed thinking, arrogance and pride but it will always be better than lack of reason.

Well, it could be one aspect of harm.
How to make the arrogant one, closed thinking individual and proud one?
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[paarsurrey]

It seems to me that logic alone (or logic backed by insufficient empirical evidence) can -- and often enough does -- lead people to absurd conclusions, such as America did not land men on the moon, vaccines cause autism, global climate change is a hoax, or the theory of evolution is largely or purely speculative. For that reason, logic must be checked against a sufficient weight of empirical evidence. And when it is, I call that combination of logical thinking and empirical evidence "reason".

You mean there should be a check on reason and logic? Is that what you mean? Please
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[paarsurrey]

Having said that, reason is not infallible. But many people who point out that reason is fallible are simplistic black and white thinkers. That is, they apparently think in terms of all or nothing. A more just and sophisticated view of reason would acknowledge that, while fallible, it is the most reliable guide that we have to the truth of things.

Agreed (magenta), how to make it fool-proof, to eradicate its fallibility in both secular and non-secular realms?
Please

 

[freethinker44]

Can reason be every bit as harmful as lack of reason because of human failings? And logic also?


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#64

I would liken it to navigating rapids on a river.
Reason and logic is like using a guide.
You can still get hurt even with a guide, but going it alone is suicide.

 

[paarsurrey]

Yes, and very clearly so. It would be totally irrational and unreasonable to think anything different. Anyone who doesn't realise this has the potential to be dangerous as, like a religious fundamentalist, they underestimate their potential to be wrong.

You mean anybody under any good name could turn fundamentalist? The name does not restraint one from doing harm to others under umbrella of a good name.
If yes, I agree.
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[paarsurrey]

Humans are much less intelligent than they think they are and are prone to hubris, especially when they believe 'the facts' support their actions.

I agree with you.
Regrds

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, you have right of freedom of action to do anything you like? Haven't you? Please
Regards

I do better things as a result of reasoning.
Btw, I've tried doing dumb things....they tend to turn our poorly.

 

[Thief]

Can reason be every bit as harmful as lack of reason because of human failings? And logic also?


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#64

I got a short story on the application of logic....
it doesn't bode well

 

[Shad]

Agreed (magenta), how to make it fool-proof, to eradicate its fallibility in both secular and non-secular realms?
Please

This will never happen. Fallibility is part of being human, we can and have been wrong. We are not capable of having perfect information all the time for every topic so we make mistakes. The best anyone can do is to challenge ideas that seem unreasonable, information that is false, biased, etc.

 

[paarsurrey]

So reason is a tool, it could work both ways, it could benefit humans, if used appropriately and could harm humanity if used inappropriately. Right?
Thank G-d who has bestowed reason and intelligence to us humans. Right?
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[idav]

Can reason be every bit as harmful as lack of reason because of human failings? And logic also?


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#64

Reason can be misleading in making people think something is true. It is false premises which are harmful and cause this.

 

[paarsurrey]

Reason can be misleading in making people think something is true. It is false premises which are harmful and cause this.

I agree with you and many friends here have mentioned when humanity was harmed due to false premises that were though to be most reasonable.
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