Can Idiots Obtain Salvation?

[!Fluffy!]

I am sure that can; for a start, it seems obvious that 'innocents' are far more likely to earn salvation that the intelligent people who use their intelligence badly.


When you think about it, babies are born with no 'knowledge' - in that state of innocence, they are 'clean'. Maybe an argument can be made to show that the more we learn and experience, the more likely we are to put ourselves in a situation that would lesten our chances of salvation. The more you know, there is so much more opportunities to be tempted to do wrong.

Pride of intellect and arrogance is indeed a stumbling block. We are encouraged to approach as little children. To me it means in a simple and trusting way, knowing how much he cherishes us. I think it's an attitude of the heart more than anything.

 

[Buttercup]

Yeah, but does an idiot know he's saved?

 

[Comprehend]

Can a genuine idiot obtain salvation or enlightenment in your religion? Is there any level of intelligence below which it would be very unlikely for someone to obtain salvation or enlightenment? Do bimbo talk show hosts have any chance at heaven or nirvana?

LDS doctrine says that anyone can.
Alma 29:5
5 Yea, and I know that good and evil have come before all men; he that knoweth not good from evil is blameless; ...
Moroni 8:22
22 For behold that all little children are alive in Christ, and also all they that are without the law....

D&C 29-49-50
49 And, again, I say unto you, that whoso having knowledge, have I not commanded to repent?
50 And he that hath no understanding, it remaineth in me to do according as it is written....

 

[sandy whitelinger]

idiots have spirits; they don't have souls.

I would think that spirits in the hands of idiots could lead to a tailgate party.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I don't think we can obtain genuine salvation through any kind of faith or belief. we are saved by the grace of god alone.

So a Calvinist idiot can be saved?

 

[Scuba Pete]

Can a genuine idiot obtain salvation or enlightenment in your religion?

I am living proof of this.

 

[Random]

I do not believe idiots can save themselves, but they can be saved by others. Mysticism requires a sharp intellect, a strong will and a good heart: but most of all it needs imagination and the ability to visualize abstractions and conceptualize effortlessly. A high degree of rational intelligence is indispensible as you have to work not only with numbers, letters and symbols, but myth and psychology also amongst other things touched upon.

Idiots rule, and the morons are in the majority (unfortunately). They lack these things because most cannot even discern the necessity of salvation in the first place. A slave who thinks he is free is the most willing slave of all. Even thousands of years ago men knew gnosis, Enlightened insight, was for the few and not the many.

This might all sound very elitist, and it is. But so what? Salvation is a job, and someone, preferably the most capable, the specialists, should do it.

Harsh perhaps, but true.