Can gays or bisexuals be Christian?

[Unveiled Artist]

sorry but jesus teaching contradict some of the OT. he says he came to resturn the lost sheep. obviously the sheep didn't believe they were lost, or in danger. jesus is never at odds with the thieves, the prostitutes, the poor, the disenfranchised. he's always at odds with the rich, the self-righteous, the powerful. why? simple, love makes all things equal, just as the name makes all things equal in that i am that i am.

Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain.

sheeple desire material things, power, prestige, wealth, et al........

I do not believe in scripture. Like all books, we dont need to be specialists to understand what books say. Spiritual books are not excluded.

 

[Fool]

Dont think you get it.

1. Sex (promiscuity: rape, same-sex sex, abuse, fornification, sex outside mariage) are sins.

2. It has to do with knowing you sin (not ignorance) to be classified as a sin punished by god

3. The bible does not correlate homosexuality (same sex sex in bible definition) with love nor heart at all

4. Jesus is gods son. He is also innocent. Sin is when you Act in disobedience to god not that an innocent person is accused

5. Not according to scripture. It is very clear.

a. Sex (male/female intercourse) is a sin outside mirriage
b. Those who gave up "normal sex" did so as promiscuity actions
c. Therefore, it is a sin

There is no love in same-sex acts in the bible

everything is god's offspring. you've been groomed to believe something besides god begat all of creation.

jesus was raised the same way. unfortunately he had asked more questions, knocked on forbidden doors, sought diligently until he realized i am that i am.

 

[Fool]

I do not believe in scripture. Like all books, we dont need to be specialists to understand what books say. Spiritual books are not excluded.

and yet you're using scripture to justify your logic in this thread, paradox

 

[Unveiled Artist]

everything is god's offspring. you've been groomed to believe something besides god begat all of creation.

jesus was raised the same way. unfortunately he had asked more questions, knocked on forbidden doors, sought diligently until he realized i am that i am.

How does relate to what I said?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

and yet you're using scripture to justify your logic in this thread, paradox

I dont see scripture different in regards to talking abour the logic of something I dont believe in.

I hate math but I can show why two and two is four regardless my beliefs.

You are not christian. That does not matter in this.

Where in scripture (biblical) does it say homosexual acts are love related?

Where does it say same-sex actions are equal to love the same as straight-sex?

Quote the bible not your faith.

 

[Fool]

How does relate to what I said?

love doesn't make some people greater and some lesser. it makes everyone equal. an offspring can never be greater than it's parents, its enough that they should be come like one.


John 5:19


Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.

 

[Fool]

I dont see scripture different in regards to talking abour the logic of something I dont believe in.

jesus had to correct those who saw scripture different in regard to what they didn't believe in.

case in point: love and murder are not compatible. i love you, i'll kill you is not a service to all as self

I hate math but I can show why two and two is four regardless my beliefs.

mathematics is another language that conveys ideas.

You are not christian. That does not matter in this.

I have no clue what you're implying here. i can quote from all kinds of sources but that doesn't mean i idolize the author, so no, i'm not a christian in that sense.

IWhere in scripture (biblical) does it say homosexual acts are love related?

i showed you. love covers all sins. it is not a sin where love is involved.

IWhere does it say same-sex actions are equal to love the same as straight-sex?

straight sex is considered unclean. again jesus never made any comment as such; in fact he touched unclean things and did unclean things all the time and didn't follow the levitical commandments. straight sex and same sex acts are both acts of sex, not love. the song of solomon describes love and how the spirit and flesh become one. so in truth the spirit is neither male, nor female but creates both.

IQuote the bible not your faith.

now this is interesting. i have quoted scripture and you didn't like it. you're going from one polarity to another.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

love doesn't make some people greater and some lesser. it makes everyone equal. an offspring can never be greater than it's parents, its enough that they should be come like one.


John 5:19


Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.

How does this relate?

 

[Fool]

How does this relate?

love makes everyone equals

This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

i showed you. love covers all sins. it is not a sin where love is involved.

Not related to same sex being a sin regardless the intent

so in truth the spirit is neither male, nor female but creates both.

Thats ideal. Scripture isnt isolated. Its not true for all just people whobgave not sinned and love god

now this is interesting. i have quoted scripture and you didn't like it. you're going from one polarity to another.

Never said that. I have replied from your scripture.

Where in scripture does it say same sex actions are not a sin?

Action not intent

 

[Fool]

Not related to same sex being a sin regardless the intent

self is either subject to the law, or within the law, able to judge. nothing is above the law

love isn't subject to the law. it is the law.

love does not take a form. its an action.




https://timsteppingout.wordpress.com/2017/09/19/the-naassenes/

opus contra naturam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naassenes

https://dennisklocek.com/alchemical-worldview/

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11257-naasites

 

[kjw47]

Gay Christian 101 - Affirming God's glorious gospel good news for all LGBTs. Click the preceeding link for proof of the affirmative answer I support. I am a Christian, and I love Yeshua so much. If I could take a special pill to not be bisexual, I would. Why would I choose to be demonized by the three Abrahamic faiths.

1Corinthians 6:9-11--a list of unacceptable sins--As one sees the true followers mentioned stopped doing those sins. Sex out of marriage is not forgiven unless stopped fully. It makes the statement-- that is what some of you were= past tense. They dont do those sins now.
Galations 5:19-21 is another list--Both spots teach---Will NOT enter Gods kingdom if one continues in those sins. Yet most on earth live in them daily.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

love makes everyone equals

This is how love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment: In this world we are like Jesus.

How you see love in relationship with same-sex sex is different than how scripture defines it. Its just how it is. Very to the point. Its a heteralistic belief system. Regardless our opinions, they hold no barrings no more if we believed towo and two is five. (Example) it doesnt matter.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

self is either subject to the law, or within the law, able to judge. nothing is above the law

love isn't subject to the law. it is the law.

love does not take a form. its an action.




https://timsteppingout.wordpress.com/2017/09/19/the-naassenes/

opus contra naturam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naassenes

https://dennisklocek.com/alchemical-worldview/

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11257-naasites

This has nothing to do with same sex sex related to scripture


How do you connect love with same sex acts when

1. Same sex acts are sins
2. Thereby there can be no love in sin

Do you understand?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

self is either subject to the law, or within the law, able to judge. nothing is above the law

love isn't subject to the law. it is the law.

love does not take a form. its an action.




https://timsteppingout.wordpress.com/2017/09/19/the-naassenes/

opus contra naturam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naassenes

https://dennisklocek.com/alchemical-worldview/

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11257-naasites

This has nothing to do with same sex sex related to scripture


How do you connect love with same sex acts when

1. Same sex acts are sins
2. Thereby there can be no love in sin

Do you understand?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

And you think that gays getting married affects you.... how, exactly?

Gays getting married does Not affect me.
Scot and Rick are married and I greet them as I would anyone else.
When Scot had surgery I was concerned and expressed get-well wishes to him.

 

[Fool]

How you see love in relationship with same-sex sex is different than how scripture defines it. Its just how it is. Very to the point. Its a heteralistic belief system. Regardless our opinions, they hold no barrings no more if we believed towo and two is five. (Example) it doesnt matter.

you're going with the dead letter; there are not absolutes in Love.

 

[Fool]

This has nothing to do with same sex sex related to scripture


How do you connect love with same sex acts when

1. Same sex acts are sins
2. Thereby there can be no love in sin

Do you understand?

You're working backwards. Love, mercy overrides all sins. you are attempting to take a scripture and override god, or love with it. love is not subject to sin, sin is subject to love.


God makes the sun to shine on both the righteous and the unrighteous.

love makes its light to shine on both the sinless and the sinful.

the problem is that the law is simple: do unto other self has you would have done to self. doesn't matter what your sex is, its that simple. what love has joined together let no one tear asunder.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

you're going with the dead letter; there are not absolutes in Love.

Huh?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

You're working backwards. Love, mercy overrides all sins. you are attempting to take a scripture and override god, or love with it. love is not subject to sin, sin is subject to love.


God makes the sun to shine on both the righteous and the unrighteous.

love makes its light to shine on both the sinless and the sinful.

the problem is that the law is simple: do unto other self has you would have done to self. doesn't matter what your sex is, its that simple. what love has joined together let no one tear asunder.

No. I dont change scripture just because I disagree with it. It is what it is. You can believe anything but fact remains:

1. Samesex sex is a sin (no love;no heart)
2. God made men and women to procreate

3.This IS love. They are not seperate.

Scripture is considered love. It doesnt override itself.

It is what it is. Follow whatever you will. Saying its from the bible is a different story. I see religions change others beliefs rather than keep to their own truth.

Love is conditional in the bible. It only applies to those who believe