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Blatant Injustice

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by InChrist, Feb 27, 2020.

  1. InChrist

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    This is truly terrible and unjust..,


     
  2. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    I don't remember you being such an uncritical believer in MSM.

    I guess things change.
    Tom
     
  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I am the one who naps.
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    The guy isn't giving details about the crimes.
    Knowing OAN well, I'm skeptical.
     
  4. InChrist

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    What do you mean-MSM?
     
  5. InChrist

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    How much detail can he give in two minutes? Anyway, being skeptical isn’t a bad thing, so check it out further.
     
  6. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I am the one who naps.
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    I understand that a couple minutes on TV is only enuf to give a synopsis.
    But without something to get a better sense of the situation, it appears to
    be just another OAN hitpiece.
    Note that I think OAN is fine for a quick glance at news reported for the day,
    but they have a strong agenda...one which makes Fox News look meek.
    If they want to make that commie enclave of Minnesotastan look bad. they will.
     
  7. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    Main Stream Media.

    In other words, media who's job is to sell ads, not tell the truth.
    Tom
     
  8. Nakosis

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    MAPLEWOOD, Minn. - A little known legal loophole is allowing hundreds of child sexual predators in Minnesota to slide under the radar, leaving parents in the dark about the danger they may pose.

    Records obtained by KARE 11 reveal that admitted child molesters, rapists, and people who’ve been caught with child pornography are not on Minnesota’s sex offender registry or the state’s public online courts database.

    Despite admitting their guilt, Minnesota judges and prosecutors have granted some sex offenders a special status that makes their past largely secret. Sometimes with tragic consequences.
    KARE 11 Investigates: Minnesota's secret sex offenders

    From reading it, one county system has decided since it is difficult to get a conviction in a sexual predatory case, they offer a stay of execution if the offender pleads guilty for the crime. In exchange for the guilty plea and probation, the conviction is never entered in the books. No conviction, no need to register as a sex offender.
     
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  9. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    The link is invalid
     
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  10. dianaiad

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    Hmmn. I haven't seen the video or read the article. (well, I couldn't....the link doesn't take me where the article is supposed to be) I am commenting here about something that has been bugging me for awhile now; the 'deal' mentality of the legal system.

    OK, consider this....that actually happened (not to me, I build my own computers and am in total control of what's on them).

    A person was given a laptop to use for work, so she could take it and 'work from home' sometimes. The situation worked VERY well for both her and her company for years.

    Until a whole bunch of child pornography was found on it. Not mild stuff, very nasty stuff. She had NO idea where it came from...she didn't go to any porn sites, never mind child porn sites. In fact, discovering that it was there was an accident. Her eight year old hit the wrong button and.....there it was.

    So SHE went to the IT department of her company, showed it to them and asked them what to do. They took her laptop, gave her a new one, and she thought the situation was handled. Except it wasn't. The IT department reported her to the cops, and it, and they, 'eavesdropped' on her and her computer use. Sure enough, a few months later child porn was found on her computer, downloaded from some 'black cloud' site (or whatever that stuff is called). She was called in and arrested, fired, and the prosecutors told her that she had a choice; she could fight the charge and lose, and be forever branded as a sex offender and never find another job, and probably lose her children and serve a long time in prison.

    OR she could save everybody money, plead guilty, take a short probation, keep out of jail and keep her children and NOT be on the sex offender list. Her lawyer told her that she COULD fight it, and the odds of her winning were pretty good, but that the record of that fight would be permanently on her record, and if she lost....well, the stakes were just too high for her. She plead guilty and took the deal.

    Tell me; in her position, wouldn't you have taken the deal? Talk about a LOSE LOSE position! Even if she had won, she'd have lost pretty much everything.

    Turns out, much later, it was a hacker who was after the company. She wasn't even the specific target...but there you go. She's consulting another lawyer about suing someone over it.

    WAY too many people are pressured into 'taking deals' when they absolutely should not, because of situations just like hers. People who are innocent, but who plead guilty because they can't afford the fight, either monetarily or whatever.

    So my opinion is: If the goal is to get as many guilty pleas as possible, then don't go yelling if part of that deal includes NOT include registering as a sex offender. I have the feeling that if my friend had had to do that, she would NEVER have taken the deal. That might have been worth fighting over. If your case is so weak that you can't get a guilty plea without the offer, then think a couple times before offering it. I mean, really....either find better evidence or go after someone else.

    As far as my friend is concerned? I think she WILL sue, and if she does, I hope she cleans clocks.
     
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  11. Nakosis

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    Sorry, don't know what happened. Fixed it, hopefully. Try it now.
     
  12. sun rise

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    Yes, it's fine. Thanks.

    What a horrible situation. I hope that is fix or being fixed. Such people should not get anything like the almost free pass they're getting.
     
  13. InChrist

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    I don’t consider Liz Wheeler exactly maim stream media.
    But thanks for your input and opinion.
     
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