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Binary Asteroid

Bishadi

Active Member
Jul 11, 2008

Binary Asteroids
What causes asteroids to split apart?
Scientists have been studying small planetoids called Near Earth Objects (NEO) for the past thirty years. Some concerns have arisen about whether large space rocks could strike our planet since current theories suggest that one of them caused the extinction of the dinosaurs. The Earth has supposedly been struck many times by asteroids and comets, so astronomers have been tracking as many objects as they can find to see if any of them cross the plane of Earth's orbit.

Binary Asteroids

will look into this

Read the article as is shares a phenomenon just being understood
No one wants to imagine that such things could take place on the planetary or stellar scale. However, each of the phenomena that we consider in these pages interrelate in ways that make the conclusion compelling: electricity forms most of what we see in the Solar System and beyond


and why?

Because entangled energy is that phenomenon known as Gravity!

Entanglement Entropy in Loop Quantum Gravity

Authors: William Donnelly
(Submitted on 6 Feb 2008)
Abstract: The entanglement entropy between quantum fields inside and outside a black hole horizon is a promising candidate for the microscopic origin of black hole entropy. We show that the entanglement entropy may be defined in loop quantum gravity, and compute its value for spin network states. The entanglement entropy for an arbitrary region of space is expressed as a sum over punctures where the spin network intersects the region's boundary. Our result agrees asymptotically with results previously obtained from the isolated horizon framework, and we give a justification for this agreement. We conclude by proposing a new method for studying corrections to the area law and its implications for quantum corrections to the gravitational action


entanglement gravity - Google Search

to any intersted... note the dates on all these NEW ideas of what gravity could be

Never mind what I suggest.... enjoy the read
 

meogi

Well-Known Member
Interesting. Electric universe huh... hadn't heard of that before. Plasma universe, yea, but not electric; gonna have to look that up, thanks.

I have a question about entanglement too, been reading and checking the math you're talking about. Why exactly does it have an impact on us? It doesn't appear that macroscopic entanglement is very feasible... and entanglement only seems important when you're measuring it. A possible breakthrough for computing/communication, but what effect does it have on life?
 

Bishadi

Active Member
Interesting. Electric universe huh... hadn't heard of that before. Plasma universe, yea, but not electric; gonna have to look that up, thanks.
NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!!!!!!!

Meaning in chemistry all life is electrical based on electronic potential of electrons changing shells and chemically bonding....basically chemistry suggests all life is electrically based..........

WOW! meogi ...... you be one funny character......

The term is allowing each to observe the 'magnetism' and 'electrical' aspects of how energy is shared to exchange between the solar bodies.....

Look up the magnetospheres of the sun, earth and jupiter....... you may be real surprised to realize all the space out then, and none of it empty.

I have a question about entanglement too, been reading and checking the math you're talking about. Why exactly does it have an impact on us? It doesn't appear that macroscopic entanglement is very feasible...
look up dark matter and the observations of the 'galaxy rotation curve'
The rotation curve of a galaxy can be represented by a graph that plots the orbital velocity of the stars or gas in the galaxy on the y-axis against the distance from the center of the galaxy on the x-axis. Stars revolve around the center of galaxies at a constant speed over a large range of distances from the center of the galaxy. Thus they revolve much faster than would be expected if they were in a free Newtonian potential. The galaxy rotation problem is this discrepancy between the observed rotation speeds of matter in the disk portions of spiral galaxies and the predictions of Newtonian dynamics considering the visible mass. This discrepancy is currently thought to betray the presence of dark matter that permeates the galaxy and extends into the galaxy's halo.

That is ENTANGLED ENERGY that is causing it. There is not such thing as dark matter/energy and they created the concept to correct the errors in the Newtonian (gravity model) i.e... them star close to each other are exchanging potential greater than the attraction to the center of the galaxy...

how do you think than binary ateroids are entangled to each other, in which the center is not of them but the energy between them....


and entanglement only seems important when you're measuring it. A possible breakthrough for computing/communication, but what effect does it have on life?
try the idea of smell... a bear smells a dead carcus... and goes to it based on what? He captured energy from the source and was attracted to it.

keep it simple and find, it all works you just have to let yourself see with both eyes wide open...
 
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Bishadi

Active Member
here is an idea i awoke with;

if the binary asteroid shares that within or in between the 2 rotating; if the highest state of the so called gravitational attraction is focused in the center of their combination and not on the mass of either asteroid...

then you are seeing the exact same thing that is called a 'black hole'....

not that they exist but that is is the combining of energy focused to the center is that phenomena wrongfully called a black hole, when it is really the shared energy between the stuctures is greater than any of the singles, added separately.....

this phenomenon is from entangled energy...
 

camanintx

Well-Known Member
here is an idea i awoke with;

if the binary asteroid shares that within or in between the 2 rotating; if the highest state of the so called gravitational attraction is focused in the center of their combination and not on the mass of either asteroid...

then you are seeing the exact same thing that is called a 'black hole'....

not that they exist but that is is the combining of energy focused to the center is that phenomena wrongfully called a black hole, when it is really the shared energy between the stuctures is greater than any of the singles, added separately.....

this phenomenon is from entangled energy...

Concentrating an objects gravitational attraction at its center of mass is just a mathematical trick to make the equations easier to solve. If were sitting at the center of mass of this binary asteroid, you would would be pulled equally in all directions so you wouldn't actually feel any attraction at all.
 

Bishadi

Active Member
Concentrating an objects gravitational attraction at its center of mass is just a mathematical trick to make the equations easier to solve. If were sitting at the center of mass of this binary asteroid, you would would be pulled equally in all directions so you wouldn't actually feel any attraction at all.

so basically you recognize a black hole is simply the same thing?

'a mathematical trick'
 

Bishadi

Active Member
maybe with a little more reading, each can see just how much there is to know


Entropy of a black hole

Black holes confront us with a fundamental problem : what happens to the information when a particle falls inside a black hole ?
Remember that only three parameters are required to fully describe a black hole : its mass, its electrical charge, and its angular momentum.
But, in order to describe a physical system, we need other information, especially entropy, which is a measurement of its disorder.
Losing entropy by falling into a black hole is a violation of the second principle of thermodynamics. This law states that entropy is an always increasing function in a closed system - and the universe is a closed system, as nothing can escape it.
In 1972, Stephen Hawking showed that the area of the horizon of a black hole can not decrease.

why would entropy be an issue?

do you know?



Black holes are staples of science fiction and many think astronomers have observed them indirectly. But according to a physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, these awesome breaches in space-time do not and indeed cannot exist.

2005


If new calculations are correct, the universe just got even stranger. Scientists at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio, have constructed mathematical formulas that conclude black holes cannot exist. The findings--if correct--could revolutionize astrophysics and resolve a paradox that has perplexed physicists for 4 decades.

2007



the fact is black holes do not exist; and I offer a anology to observe the eye that winks, not the one that stinks; as some others still see with the wrong black hole
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I'm sure we all know who among us has the 'stinky eye'. ;)



from: No More Black Holes? -- Berardelli 2007 (621): 1 -- ScienceNOW
Not so fast, says astronomer Kimberly Weaver of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. Although she appreciates the physics the Case Western Reserve team is describing, the problem is "we have never observed any events that would back this up." At the site of the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, for example, she says astronomers routinely observe what looks like interstellar material disappearing without a trace.

if you read the rest of the article Black Hole Thermodynamics
it tells you how black holes get around (ie do not violate) thermodynamics.

wa:do

ps. you should cite your sources.
 

Bishadi

Active Member
LIke air, just because you can't see them, doesn't mean they aren't there.

but to understand that black holes have never been seen (no light escapes per se).. and it is from math, they were predicted, as well the math does not meet the data shared in the observations (the curve).... then check the math before believing in something of such magnitude which we all know they cannot see, before trying to continue the fibs that people begin to believe......

you know like a man walking on water.............

so in a sense observing science with integrity is like observing religions with integrity...

if you want to believe in magic? Fine, step aside; as there is no such thing in reality!
 

Bishadi

Active Member
here is a link to many of the asteroids documented and updated to 5-2008

an awesome link for some who like to study Asteroids with satellites


although a few will try and find a word that is mispelled and try a derail the thinking few.

never mind them as many are simply of faith, belief and definitely not of any depth in the sciences.....

so enjoy and remember..... there is much to do so if you find a subject and items you really enjoy; work through the information as you see and write the summaries you find true; build the data, to convey knowledge for the future....

We are All a part of this evolution of knowledge.

them who wish not to evolve will be extinct; so mind them no honor
 
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