Bad Diet During Pregnacy.. Abuse?

[Sleeppy]

I think the gate is much wider than some people think..

Here's another question:
Why are children, pets, and other custodies and possessions so much a concern of outside parties? Especially if they have no initial relation to those parties?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Here's another question:
Why are children, pets, and other custodies and possessions so much a concern of outside parties? Especially if they have no initial relation to those parties?

A child is not a possession. Parents are the stewards of children, not their owners.

 

[Sleeppy]

Oh, and we're missing a 'n' in the title.

 

[Sleeppy]

A child is not a possession. Parents are the stewards of children, not their owners.

Not possessions but they (usually) remain in possession of the parents? Parents don't possess their children?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I think the gate is much wider than some people think..

Here's another question:
Why are children, pets, and other custodies and possessions so much a concern of outside parties? Especially if they have no initial relation to those parties?

Parents are considered guardians, not owners.

As for the original question? A bad diet during pregnancy will affect the woman as well. Her health affects the health of the fetus.

 

[Me Myself]

Not possessions but they (usually) remain in possession of the parents? Parents don't possess their children?

As crazy as it sounds, children are not slaves.

 

[Pegg]

I think the gate is much wider than some people think..

Here's another question:
Why are children, pets, and other custodies and possessions so much a concern of outside parties? Especially if they have no initial relation to those parties?

probably because we all have a sense of justice and right and wrong and we are philanthropists by nature... if we see someone in danger, we want to help them. We want to protect those who cannot protect themselves....its everyones responsibility.

if we fail to help when its in our power, we are not being ethical.

 

[Alceste]

People generally don't want to see others (human and non-human) suffer unnecessarily.

 

[tilly_101]

Hmmmm

 

[Treks]

I study with a pregnant lady who will only eat "organic" food but she smokes cigarettes.

 

[Sleeppy]

Parents are considered guardians, not owners.

As for the original question? A bad diet during pregnancy will affect the woman as well. Her health affects the health of the fetus.

Guardian is an oversimplification. The parents oversee everything, from the genes outward.

Ok. We know what bad diet does to both mother and child alike. At what point is it child abuse and acceptable for outside parties to step in?

 

[Sleeppy]

As crazy as it sounds, children are not slaves.

It doesn't sound crazy.. But it is. Children really have very little control. Their parents and their societal expectations enslave them.

 

[ChristineES]

After seeing children with FAS and crack babies, I don't think I can answer any other way but yes. A child may still have special needs, even if the mother ate perfectly well, didn't smoke or drink or do drugs, etc. while pregnant- But some special needs can be prevented.

 

[Sleeppy]

probably because we all have a sense of justice and right and wrong and we are philanthropists by nature... if we see someone in danger, we want to help them. We want to protect those who cannot protect themselves....its everyones responsibility.

if we fail to help when its in our power, we are not being ethical.

I agree. And I'd like to take gas guzzling cars and cigarrettes (among other pollutants) out of use. What rights should I have to make this happen?

 

[Sleeppy]

After seeing children with FAS and crack babies, I don't think I can answer any other way but yes. A child may still have special needs, even if the mother ate perfectly well, didn't smoke or drink or do drugs, etc. while pregnant- But some special needs can be prevented.

I agree. Should outside parties decide how pregnant women are allowed to eat?

 

[ChristineES]

I agree. Should outside parties decide how pregnant women are allowed to eat?

I don't think we can go that far. The best we can do is give guidelines. The majority of pregnant women do eat correctly and don't smoke and all that. Maybe doing drugs or drinking while pregnancy can be called child endangerment but even that is murky. I, personally, wouldn't want some social worker standing over my shoulder while I ate my lunch if I could get pregnant again.

 

[Sleeppy]

I don't think we can go that far. The best we can do is give guidelines. The majority of pregnant women do eat correctly and don't smoke and all that. Maybe doing drugs or drinking while pregnancy can be called child endangerment but even that is murky. I, personally, wouldn't want some social worker standing over my shoulder while I ate my lunch if I could get pregnant again.

Individual privacy supercedes prevention of child abuse by law vigilantes?

 

[Treks]

It also puts abortion on shakey ground.

What, so I can't eat this bag of french fries but it's A-OK for me to kill the little fella?

 

[Alceste]

Individual privacy supercedes prevention of child abuse by law vigilantes?

No children of drug addicts and alcoholics are often taken away, and rightly so.

 

[dantech]

What a world we live...