Atheist Desire to Disprove God

[Kilgore Trout]

Oh, but he was asking about atheists.

You expressed in the other thread that you had no belief that you were an atheist.

I'm an atheist because the definition happens to accurately describe me. No belief required.

 

[Willamena]

I'm an atheist because the definition happens to accurately describe me. No belief required.

That's okay. I don't believe you're an atheist, either.

 

[Thief]

Lol, you forgot to add the part where the "rib" turned into a woman.............yeah not happening.

I didn't forget it.

Nowadays we call it cloning.

Adam was given his twin sister for a bride.

Eve had no navel.

Hard to believe ain't it?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

That's okay. I don't believe you're an atheist, either.

Your belief in whether the definition of atheist accurately applies to me or not is irrelevant. It applies regardless of who believes it or not. Belief isn't required, nor relevant to the fact.

 

[Thief]

Really?
When did she deny a believer their faith?

Is your faith so weak as to see any disagreement with it an attack on it?
Is their faith so weak that they see any disagreement with it as an attack on it?

Seems to me that if said faith is so weak they should really avoid going out of their way to present it to complete strangers.

But then we come back to the whole Christian attitude "the more my faith is attacked, the truer my faith must be".
Sad that so many Christians take this to mean they must see attack and persecution where it does not exist.

Cop out?
Funny cause every time I see you make your threats from god I think the very same thing.
Why not just preach your sermon and fore go the threats?
Or is belief under threat better than no belief at all?

I agree with Alceste.
The followers of God are the biggest incentive to reject god.

All assumptions and bad perceptions on your part.

I don't call myself Christian....note banner....

And I don't make threats....if you were honestly reading my posts you would know this.

And you may have noticed...most participants here are more stubborn than anything else.

And I don't mind at all.

Rejecting God is not my problem....I'm doing just fine.

 

[Orias]

Your belief in whether the definition of atheist accurately applies to me or not is irrelevant. It applies regardless of who believes it or not. Belief isn't required, nor relevant to the fact.

Funny how you mention fact, which is defined with belief.

 

[McBell]

Do atheists care about fancy arrangments for their corpse when they die?

Do atheists give a wit if thhey are, when they die, are thrown into a paupers grave?

Or do atheists desire pomp and circumstance to herald their deaths in a ritualised furneral.

It would seem that an atheist should care not a fig for how their carnal body would be desposed of.

It would seem that most body parts donated to science would come from atheists.

That is a rather interesting assumption.
Are you claiming that pride and vanity are things only theists suffer from?

 

[McBell]

All assumptions and bad perceptions on your part.

Your denial is duly noted.

I don't call myself Christian....note banner....

I never claimed you did.
Nor have I claimed you to be a Christian.
Perhaps if you were to actually read and COMPREHEND what was written, you would understand that you were being compared to Christians.

And I don't make threats....

The hell you don't.
Now I shall add liar to the list.

if you were honestly reading my posts you would know this.

Being subtle with your threats does not make them non-threats.

And you may have noticed...most participants here are more stubborn than anything else.

And you rank right above most in the stubborn department.

Interesting how the most common reaction to an ultimatum is to completely reject it.
Yet here you are with your "believe or face divine punishment" ultimatum like it will convert people.

And I don't mind at all.

Rejecting God is not my problem....I'm doing just fine.

NO, you just think you can speak for your god.
I reject your god because of the picture of your god painted by you.

 

[gnomon]

How many ways have I deemed to disprove god today?







None.

 

[PolyHedral]

You need a linear existence for this.

A starting (singular) point.

Isn't that your whole issue with it though? That you reject the idea that existence did begin with a single point of space?

I didn't forget it.

Nowadays we call it cloning.

Adam was given his twin sister for a bride.

Eve had no navel.

Hard to believe ain't it?

Yes; the genetics involved would have killed all their children.

Funny how you mention fact, which is defined with belief.

Fact is not defined by belief at all, as facts are testable.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Funny how you mention fact, which is defined with belief.

fact

noun \ˈfakt\

1
: a thing done: as a obsolete : feat b : crime <accessory after the fact> c archaic : action

2
archaic : performance, doing

3
: the quality of being actual : actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>

4
a : something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b : an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>

5
: a piece of information presented as having objective reality

— in fact : in truth


Nope, don't see "belief" anywhere in any of those definitions.

 

[Orias]

fact

noun \&#712;fakt\

1
: a thing done: as a obsolete : feat b : crime <accessory after the fact> c archaic : action

2
archaic : performance, doing

3
: the quality of being actual : actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>

4
a : something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b : an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>

5
: a piece of information presented as having objective reality

— in fact : in truth


Nope, don't see "belief" anywhere in any of those definitions.

fact (f

kt)
n. 1. Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.
2. a. Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed: Genetic engineering is now a fact. That Chaucer was a real person is an undisputed fact.
b. A real occurrence; an event: had to prove the facts of the case.
c. Something believed to be true or real: a document laced with mistaken facts.

3. A thing that has been done, especially a crime: an accessory before the fact.
4. Law The aspect of a case at law comprising events determined by evidence: The jury made a finding of fact.


I do.

 

[Orias]

Fact is not defined by belief at all, as facts are testable.

Facts are tested out of belief, opinion. Mere curiosity. The connotative definiton suggests that fact is defined by belief, as well as truth, and tested empirical observation. Fact is limited to the subjected perception of one's view.

Sure we may "know" that when we talk on the phone we are communicating with a person outside of your enviroment, but the point of the matter is that there is no concrete evidence to perpetuate this knowledge.

It's all perception.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I do.

Ah, so it's right for whoever reads whatever dictionary you got that definition from.

Regardless, even if a word has multiple correct senses, that doesn't mean every sense applies in every case. Another reason context and meaning are so important, not just words.

 

[outhouse]

Fact is limited to the subjected perception of one's view

well thats not what the dictionary says

and i have not found you credible at all when it comes to wording, as a matter of fact you have shown yourself to make up definitions on the fly to fit your personal fantasy.

 

[Thief]

Your denial is duly noted.

I'm only denying you.

I never claimed you did.
Nor have I claimed you to be a Christian.
Perhaps if you were to actually read and COMPREHEND what was written, you would understand that you were being compared to Christians.


The hell you don't.
Now I shall add liar to the list.


Being subtle with your threats does not make them non-threats.

Consequence is rarely subtle.
Can't change it.


And you rank right above most in the stubborn department.

Interesting how the most common reaction to an ultimatum is to completely reject it.
Yet here you are with your "believe or face divine punishment" ultimatum like it will convert people.

It's more like...whether you believe ....or not.


NO, you just think you can speak for your god.
I reject your god because of the picture of your god painted by you.

It's not my handiwork.

Most of your post isn't worth the bother.

We all know you don't believe...and I don't care.

And what I believe in God, most people don't like...whether they believe...
or not.

But as you can see...I'm doing just fine.

 

[Thief]

Isn't that your whole issue with it though? That you reject the idea that existence did begin with a single point of space?

No...I do believe it began....in the beginning.....with the singularity.

Yes; the genetics involved would have killed all their children.

And without His handiwork we would all be animals....
Man as a species...Day Six.

Fact is not defined by belief at all, as facts are testable.

As for your last line....

Faith in a test tube?...I think not.

Faith needs no proving.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Faith needs no proving.

:biglaugh:......Nice.....See, we don't have to "prove" gods don't exist when we have theist like you doing a wonderful job for us.

Thank you. Thank you very much.....

 

[Thief]

:biglaugh:......Nice.....See, we don't have to "prove" gods don't exist when we have theist like you doing a wonderful job for us.

Thank you. Thank you very much.....

None the less.....
Believing in God is considered quite rational.

Just because you have failed to do so...doesn't mean you got it right.

I suppose you're waiting for a fingerprint...a photo?
Good luck with that.

 

[waitasec]

I suppose you're waiting for a fingerprint...a photo?
Good luck with that.

no, no i'm not...