Are believers less likely to sin?

[Father Heathen]

A Christian believer? Of course--skeptics don't honor even half of the Ten Commandments!

Which ones in particular, and can you provide examples?

 

[firedragon]

Typically believers tend to concern themselves with other people's "sins" rather than their own.

Some believers think that non-believers concern themselves with other peoples "sins" than their own. People think many things just like you but those things are just bigotry.

 

[Father Heathen]

Some believers think that non-believers concern themselves with other peoples "sins" than their own. People think many things just like you but those things are just bigotry.

It's not bigotry, but rather an astute observation.

 

[firedragon]

It's not bigotry, but rather an astute observation.

Others may say "its not bigotry, but rather an astute observation".

It's still bigotry.

 

[sun rise]

" Tenets"

Thanks.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

In another thread, someone shared their opinion to me.

A "believer" is less likely to r*** / assault his wife was the opinion.

Tell me your opinion. In general, is a believer less likely to "sin" or act immorally?

The study I read concluded that it was the extremes that were most likely to live moral lives -- those deeply devoted to their religion, and atheists. It was the nominally religious that tended to make excuses as to it being okay for them to act immorally.

 

[Augustus]

Atheists are proportionately underrepresented in American prisons

But not in the prisons of other countries (for example UK), where the irreligious tend to be slightly overrepresented

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Where do you get the statistics from? Whats the research method? Can you provide the statistics and the causation analysis?

The "causation" analysis is irrelevant. No causation is being claimed. Just the correlation.
If the statement is that religious people are more moral, then it follows that proportionally there should be more atheists in prison. But this is not the case.

And it's not exactly a secret.

Jailhouse Jesus - Wikipedia

According to the 2013 census, completed by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the U.S. prison population continues to decline. The estimated number of inmates in the prison system was 1,574,700 people.[10] Of these people, less than 1% (.07%) of inmates identify as atheists.[11]

 

[1213]

...Do you suppose all the paedophile priests
don't believe?...

I have no reason to think they believe Jesus who said for example:

but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.
Matt. 18:6

If person believes Jesus, he doesn't act like servant of Satan.

...
Your idea is awful simplistic.

Yes, because I think it is stupid to make simple things unnecessarily complicated.

 

[1213]

But they might be looking at porn or abusing their spouse.

How could one abuse anyone, if he believes Jesus who said that people should love others and not do anything that they would not want to be done to them? (No one wants anything to be done to them against their will).

 

[Audie]

But not in the prisons of other countries (for example UK), where the irreligious tend to be slightly overrepresented

Goes to show the (general) irrelevance of religion in morality.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think everyone believes in something. So, this depends on, what believer. If person believes what Jesus said, he probably doesn't rape/assault.

If that were true, the Catholic Church wouldn't have its predator priest scandal.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Which ones in particular, and can you provide examples?

The decalogue of Exodus 20. Skeptics don't honor the Sabbath, are free to commit adultery, covet, lie, etc.

 

[Father Heathen]

The decalogue of Exodus 20. Skeptics don't honor the Sabbath, are free to commit adultery, covet, lie, etc.

So your claim is that no Christian ever commits adultery, and that no non-Christian has any moral objection towards it?

 

[Sheldon]

In another thread, someone shared their opinion to me.

A "believer" is less likely to r*** / assault his wife was the opinion.

Tell me your opinion. In general, is a believer less likely to "sin" or act immorally?

My opinion is they were trolling, and pretty poorly at that, since there is abundant research to falsify the theistic canard that atheist are less moral. As an atheist I also don't revere a book or worship a deity depicted in it, that endorses and encourages rape.

 

[Sheldon]

Yes, while far from being sinless a believer is going to be making an effort to avoid a lot of sin that a non believer is going to be normalizing.
E.g. Muslims don’t do a lot of drinking.

I have met Muslims who absolutely do. maybe living under strict theocratic regimes has more to do with it. Though I fail to see what is immoral about taking a drink.

 

[Sheldon]

It depends on what one "believes", of course. But in the end one's "belief" doesn't matter much. It won't really stop anyone from "sinning" because "sin" is in the desire, not the act. Wanting to cheat on your wife is a sin whether you cheat on your wife or not. And what you "believe" about it doesn't change that fact, or stop that sinful desire.

None of that contains any fact, only subjective opinion.

 

[Sheldon]

From my personal experience, it isn't that we don't sin but I certainly have exponentially reduced it Assuming I am normal and eliminating the outlying anomalies, probably "yes". (No statistical support for my viewpoint other than "me")

Since atheists don't believe in sin, this is a rather meaningless observation. How can one do commit a sin when it doesn't exist?

 

[Sheldon]

Prisons are full of believers.

Well in the US longstanding research has demonstrated that atheists are underrepresented in prison populations, though of course there are many factors to be considered, but it does at least challenge the much touted theistic lie that atheists are less moral.

 

[Sheldon]

The decalogue of Exodus 20. Skeptics don't honor the Sabbath, are free to commit adultery, covet, lie, etc.

Gerraway, the bible claims non-believers are less moral? What a non shocker.

What percentage of atheists are homophobic compared to theists I wonder? What percentage are racist? As for violent crimes like murder and rape, there is longstanding research in the US demonstrating that atheists imprisoned for such crimes are at a lower percentage than in the general population.