AP African American History will be taught … in a Florida Church.

[fantome profane]

Florida church to teach banned AP African American Studies course: 'Our way of evangelism'

“Pastor Andy Oliver of Allendale United Methodist Church in St. Petersburg is offering his church as a space to teach AP African American Studies after the state's Department of Education informed the College Board that it was not going to add the course to the state's Course Code Directory.

“We have an important job as Christians to know our history, to know the history of harm specifically that African Americans have experienced in this country," he said. "I lead a congregation that sees it as a central part of our faith to stand with those who are marginalized and oppressed because that's where Jesus always located himself."



Wonderful to see a church standing up for truth. I hope this works out.

 

[Sand Dancer]

In this instance, I don't feel it's violating separation of church and state. It's a private thing. I like when folks step up to make things right.

 

[metis]

Florida church to teach banned AP African American Studies course: 'Our way of evangelism'

“Pastor Andy Oliver of Allendale United Methodist Church in St. Petersburg is offering his church as a space to teach AP African American Studies after the state's Department of Education informed the College Board that it was not going to add the course to the state's Course Code Directory.

“We have an important job as Christians to know our history, to know the history of harm specifically that African Americans have experienced in this country," he said. "I lead a congregation that sees it as a central part of our faith to stand with those who are marginalized and oppressed because that's where Jesus always located himself."



Wonderful to see a church standing up for truth. I hope this works out.

Yes, and this is undoubtedly to counter DeSantis' appeal to both Christian Nationalism and White Nationalism as he's positioning himself as "Trump II".

 

[Kenny]

Florida church to teach banned AP African American Studies course: 'Our way of evangelism'

“Pastor Andy Oliver of Allendale United Methodist Church in St. Petersburg is offering his church as a space to teach AP African American Studies after the state's Department of Education informed the College Board that it was not going to add the course to the state's Course Code Directory.

“We have an important job as Christians to know our history, to know the history of harm specifically that African Americans have experienced in this country," he said. "I lead a congregation that sees it as a central part of our faith to stand with those who are marginalized and oppressed because that's where Jesus always located himself."



Wonderful to see a church standing up for truth. I hope this works out.

yes... it is a free country. But as another brother that has more melanin said:
Leon County Commissioner Bill Proctor on AP Black History Course: ” I Think it’s Trash.”

I am glad that even when lies are spoken as truth, truth still wins out. IMHO

 

[pearl]

“We have an important job as Christians to know our history, to know the history of harm specifically that African Americans have experienced in this country," he said. "I lead a congregation that sees it as a central part of our faith to stand with those who are marginalized and oppressed because that's where Jesus always located himself."

Good for him, hope this is only the first of many.

 

[fantome profane]

But as another brother that has more melanin said …

That’s racist. I hope you realize that.

 

[Kenny]

That’s racist. I hope you realize that.

A person of more melanin is racist against... himself?

Not a racist bone in my body.

 

[Viker]

This is good. And since it's not state sponsored it's acceptable. And since other churches are teaching Christian (lily covered white) nationalism it's fair.

 

[Colt]

A person of more melanin is racist against... himself?

Not a racist bone in my body.

Any disagreement with the Left is considered racism.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Florida church to teach banned AP African American Studies course: 'Our way of evangelism'

“Pastor Andy Oliver of Allendale United Methodist Church in St. Petersburg is offering his church as a space to teach AP African American Studies after the state's Department of Education informed the College Board that it was not going to add the course to the state's Course Code Directory.

“We have an important job as Christians to know our history, to know the history of harm specifically that African Americans have experienced in this country," he said. "I lead a congregation that sees it as a central part of our faith to stand with those who are marginalized and oppressed because that's where Jesus always located himself."



Wonderful to see a church standing up for truth. I hope this works out.

I'm taking the curriculum itself is available on the net?

Churches don't strike me as being able to aquire the format and layout of the course itself, or even if it's accessible via the courses designers.

 

[Kenny]

Any disagreement with the Left is considered racism.

You kinda get that feeling, don't you? It's like "it's the answer to all positions... that don't agree with mine"

 

[Soandso]

yes... it is a free country. But as another brother that has more melanin said:
Leon County Commissioner Bill Proctor on AP Black History Course: ” I Think it’s Trash.”

I am glad that even when lies are spoken as truth, truth still wins out. IMHO

Citing your link;

“Well frankly I’m against the College Board’s curriculum. I think it’s trash. It’s not African American history. It is ideology. I’ve taught African American history, I’ve structed syllabuses for African American history. I am African American history. And talking about ‘queer’ and ‘feminism’ and all of that for the struggle for freedom and equality and justice has not been no tension with queerness and feminist thought at all.”

I get the distinct feeling, especially given his comments, that his ideas on these things are motivated by political pandering. Why else bring feminism and the LGBT community into the discussion?

 

[Kenny]

Citing your link;

“Well frankly I’m against the College Board’s curriculum. I think it’s trash. It’s not African American history. It is ideology. I’ve taught African American history, I’ve structed syllabuses for African American history. I am African American history. And talking about ‘queer’ and ‘feminism’ and all of that for the struggle for freedom and equality and justice has not been no tension with queerness and feminist thought at all.”

I get the distinct feeling, especially given his comments, that his ideas on these things are motivated by political pandering. Why else bring feminism and the LGBT community into the discussion?

Interesting... I don't find it as such. Is it because he is a politician that you automatically assume that he political? Should I assume that because the NAACP is involved it should be considered as "pandering to their supporters"?

No, let's just not make it political.
Black history class revised by College Board after criticism

Apparently they realized they were wrong in trying to push their agenda

of course, one might ask, "Just what is wrong with their curriculum"?

It seems to be a comprehensive review.

 

[Soandso]

Interesting... I don't find it as such. Is it because he is a politician that you automatically assume that he political?

Again, to cite your source;

"Florida officials last month issued a chart that said it promoted the idea that modern American society oppresses Black people, was inappropriate, and uses articles by critics of capitalism."

Interesting that they don't want the students to learn about articles written by critics of capitalism, or how America has systematically been structured against black folks from the beginning. Nothing to see, no political motivations here

Should I assume that because the NAACP is involved it should be considered as "pandering to their supporters"?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Are you saying the NAACP was involved in the creation of this curriculum, or in the opposition to it? What does the NAACP have to do with it?

No, let's just not make it political.
Black history class revised by College Board after criticism

https://news.yahoo.com/black-history-ap-class-rejected-140632844.html

Let's not make this political? How do I make something political when this posturing is political by it's very nature?

Apparently they realized they were wrong in trying to push their agenda

Yah, that's the ticket

 

[Kenny]

Again, to cite your source;

"Florida officials last month issued a chart that said it promoted the idea that modern American society oppresses Black people, was inappropriate, and uses articles by critics of capitalism."

Interesting that they don't want the students to learn about articles written by critics of capitalism, or how America has systematically been structured against black folks from the beginning. Nothing to see, no political motivations here



I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Are you saying the NAACP was involved in the creation of this curriculum, or in the opposition to it? What does the NAACP have to do with it?


Let's not make this political? How do I make something political when this posturing is political by it's very nature?



Yah, that's the ticket

The silence on the issues that I noted was very deafening. Maybe if I post it again:

 

[Orbit]

Interesting... I don't find it as such. Is it because he is a politician that you automatically assume that he political? Should I assume that because the NAACP is involved it should be considered as "pandering to their supporters"?

No, let's just not make it political.
Black history class revised by College Board after criticism

Apparently they realized they were wrong in trying to push their agenda

of course, one might ask, "Just what is wrong with their curriculum"?

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It seems to be a comprehensive review.

I'm a sociologist and I don't see a single thing wrong with that curriculum. Just sayin....what's the fuss?

 

[Kenny]

I'm a sociologist and I don't see a single thing wrong with that curriculum. Just sayin....what's the fuss?

We want education and not indoctrination?

 

[Orbit]

We want education and not indoctrination?

How is exploring ideas indoctrination?

https://www.asanet.org/wp-content/u...aching-and-learning-about-race-and-racism.pdf

 

[fantome profane]

We want education and not indoctrination?

Maybe you would prefer something like this?
https://wgntv.com/news/nazi-homeschool-sparks-call-for-review-of-ohio-homeschooling/

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

How is exploring ideas indoctrination?

https://www.asanet.org/wp-content/u...aching-and-learning-about-race-and-racism.pdf

What do you consider exploring ideas? Is there any room is this curriculum for opposing views? If so, where are they?