I love it when "atheists" anthropomorphize God. (And that is exactly what you are doing.) It shows they aren't atheists after all: they just have a funny concept of God.
By definition, God transcends conceptualization: the best and highest conception of God is only an approximation. When atheists compare God to something along the line of a pink unicorn or something in need of a cause, what they are really doing is positing a ridiculous concept of God and saying that such a God does not exist and therefore God does not exist.
Please, people. Can't you come up with something better, something less childish?
Well, I was not doing the anthropomorphizing. Penguino is the one who said that
everything has a generator. He didn't say everything except God...
By definition everything means everything. Yes, even those concepts (or um, approximations??) that conveniently "transcend conceptualization."
Furthermore, coming up with something better as you propose would be superfluous. As these basic (childish as you call them) questions have yet to be answered.
I can easily claim that the universe, the big bang, and the origin of life are all natural, but they transcend conceptualization. Don't bother critiquing this claim though, for you will only be displaying your childish arrogance.
And why is this relevant?
The generator cannot be generated because he/she is a generator. It was there from the beginning it will never go.
Oh, it's not just relevant. It is the
most relevant.
A generator cannot be generated?? I beg to differ. What you mean to say is that
your idea of an ultimate generator (which conveniently "transcends conceptualization"
) cannot be generated. This is an extraordinarily strong conviction to hold by weight of a (not so) common sense definition that you propose.
If people enjoy holding these beliefs, so be it. I would just hope that at the same time they could admit how tragically
un-compelling this rhetoric is to someone not sharing these views. I think compelling arguments are out there - I used to be a Christian.
Transcending conceptualization is certainly not one of them!