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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Amanaki, Dec 7, 2018 at 5:28 AM.

  1. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    Why are some people afraid of death?
     
    #1 Amanaki, Dec 7, 2018 at 5:28 AM
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  2. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    Religion is so people can learn not to be afraid, One must make difference in religion and greedy humns who think only of wealth. Spirituality has nothing to do with money
     
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    There is an inherent natural desire to survive as an individual of all living creatures, though even in humans as well as many animals one may be compelled to give ones life for the survival of the group or community.
     
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    people are comfortable with what they know. Some aren't comfortable with what they don't know.
     
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    For most, what lies beyond the death of the mind an body is unknown. Many are afraid of the unknown

    Also, to @Fool's point, many people are in their comfort zone in this reality and have difficulty with change.
     
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  6. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    But life is full of suffering, its that comfort? I understand others see life differently then me ofcourse :)
    I dont say i longing for death, but i have no worries about it.
    And i think more people are afraid of the part before death, not death it self. But maybe i am wrong on that.
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Self preservation instinct.
     
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  8. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    that means they have a huge attachment to life?
     
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    Death denial is prevalent as well. Teenage invincibility syndrome never figured out. As to fear ... I think fear of the unfamiliar is pretty normal. Getting on a plane for the first time, for example.
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    It's a significant aspect of human nature not to mention for just about any living organism out there. Being afraid is natural.
     
  11. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    Well as a Buddhist i working on letting go of the attachments and just be in the moment :)
     
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    I think it's mostly denial, not fear. When my father passed at 91 or so, a cousin said he was too young to be 'taken'. I didn't say anything, but certainly felt like saying, "What? You've got to be kidding! Too young?" Even doctors will say, "We lost him/her." A question comes to mind ... Did you really think you could keep him alive forever. Lost? To what?

    The sooner we come to grips with 'Anybody. Any time. Anywhere." the better. We should never be surprised.
     
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    I see it like this. There is a difference in not being afraid of death and not being afraid of the idea of death. The former is our body's natural reaction to the decline of life. The latter is based on the idea that once one accepts death, their is no mental pain. I like how woody Allen puts it: it's not that I am afraid of death, I just don't want to be there when it happens. I think we can train ourselves not to be afraid with the idea of death. We can't control our body and mind else we wouldn't have all these illnesses, pains, mental health disorders, etc.

    One last quote from an RF member:

    My life has been pretty good so far. I am now afraid of death.

    Probably because of who he will leave behind. Death is a seperation of that. So, why are people afraid of death? Because they are naturally attached to life. It makes sense to be attached to something we know. Children do it. Adults do it. Seniors do it.

    But, edit, accepting the idea of death comes from experience, age, and most likely ones religious belief. I see a difference; but, those who say they aren't afraid, I don't think they do. It's a mental way to block that quick anxiety. Natural.

    In some cultures they don't have the same view of the idea of death as others. Nothing wrong with that. Different things help one handle death. When it arrives, though, I don't think anyone can avoid going through the grieving process. If you aren't afraid, why do you grieve?
     
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    Fear will still be there. It just won't have that 'bite' it used to have.
     
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    Good point about culture. For some it is a time to rejoice, not grieve. I haven't grieved in the western sense for quite some time. A quiet reflection, and fond remembrance, sure. My brother and I had the honours of doing eulogies for both parents. Dad's especially, was more like a comedy act than a bawling session.

    In mystic Hinduism, it's a time to rejoice. Going for moksha, or getting a fresh new body. Both cases are far better than inhabiting this withered bag of bones. Who doen't enjoy putting on a new shirt? Of course when you identify the physical body as being you, it's much harder.
     
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  16. Amanaki

    Amanaki The truth lay within you.

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    Actually when one has let go fully of the attachment to fear then there are no rection to those things that fear normally arise. atleast that how it happen to me in my practice.
     
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    ooops
    That makes sense. I'm grieving now but still haven't got to the point of knowing rebirth. I think it's a trust issue too. I see a lot of acceptance and less ego (in my view) when we dont have different afterlife whether it be changing new shirts or getting one eternal wrinkled free one.

    I see rebirth in the cycle of life but to accept it, it reminds me of this Are you Afraid of Happiness? | Robert Holden, Ph.D. maybe some of us are afraid of happiness. In the U.S. there is a lot of depression due to working a lot and loosing what we have when we dont. Not all states (it's not U(S)niversal, but there nonetheless. It depends on where one lives.

    For some reason knowing my aunt is not here and won't be here is more comfortable than knowing she has another shirt or an eternal one. A lot of people have the afterlife-view. Don't get me wrong, I'm afraid of death, but then I don't have methods to relieve that fear just find ways to accept it. Helps me grieve better.
     
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    :mad: my point in a nut shell. How dare you.:p
     
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    It takes lifetimes. The Buddha didn't achieve that state until thousands of lifetimes of practice. Think of a monastic. There is no attachment to the internet, loved ones, etc. No attachment to pain Nor pleasure. But they aren't Buddhas either. Maybe that's the closest we would be accepting the idea of death. The Buddha didn't say there was no pain. I bet he was afraid. Just accepted he got pain from the arrow and instead of asking about its nature, he made the Act of taking it out without needing to understand it first.
     
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    No, life is not "full" of suffering. Why pretend that it is?
     
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