What a way to avoid taking a stand. Can you come up with any other correct moral choice than to shoot?Of course not.
Yikes. You really are a bit lost in there, aren't you.
I just gave you an opposite moral choice (to withhold fire), and you reply by declaring that I can't come up with an opposite moral choice. Goodness. Do you see why I continue to view you as someone of a fundamentalist mindset? You seem organically incapable of removing yourself from your own assumptions and seeing other worldviews as possibly legitimate.
That's a fundamentalist, yes? Yet you claim to be an atheist. It's curious.
You can't believe in objective morality if you believe in God. God's morality is God's subjective morality and is the opposite of objective morality.How can God's subjective morality become objective?
I have no idea what you are talking about. How could God's morality be subjective?
Or to put it into your terms: How can God's
objective morality become subjective?
in my scenario is it my moral opinion that it's better to shoot if he begs me to shoot him or would it be the correct action no matter who was there?
It's your moral opinion. What else could it be? If someone else were there, it could be that shooting him would be the immoral action. Obviously. Let's say the shooter had had a near-death experience and knows for a certainty that hell actually exists. And that if he aids his friend's suicide, he will spend eternity in hell.
But for five extra minutes of physical pain here on earth, Artie would be willing to condemn him to eternal agony. What sort of monster would make a decision like that.
Clear your mind for a moment and read the following words carefully. I would like a direct answer to this question:
If hell is real and suicides go to hell, would it be moral or immoral for you to agree to his plea for suicide and shoot him?
I am most curious to hear how you answer that question. My guess is that you will find the question silly or stupid or some other ugly thing and therefore refuse to address it.
I hope otherwise.
What the hell does your beliefs have to do with what's moral to do?
I don't know how to answer you. It's as if you've asked me, "What the hell does roundness have to do with the shape of the moon?"
You yourself missed the McQueen question based upon your belief that the US could not be a hostile aggressor in China. But I believe that the US could be a hostile aggressor. And in that case, the clear Correct Moral Choice would be to allow the sailor to be tortured for his military secrets, thereby saving thousands of Chinese civilians from violence.
But your personal beliefs won't let you think such a thing. So you continue to make the wrong moral choice in the McQueen Case.
If he asks to be shot, shoot him. If he doesn't want to be shot, don't shoot him.
He's retarded. His wound is not as bad as he thinks and will heal well enough. And he is the oldest son in a family of twelve, the rest of whom are underaged or sick and cannot work to support the family. He has a job in a steel mill, just lifting and moving stuff. If this young man dies, his widowed mother and eleven siblings will suffer horribly and starve to death in the cold.
But you would shoot him anyway. Wow, what a horrible moral stance. Not to mention that it goes against everything you have claimed about morality. The greatest good for the greatest number, remember?
Your beliefs have nothing to do with anything. You have no right to let your subjective beliefs override what he wants.
Some of us are not afraid to play God. We recognize that all humans do that all day long. I will indeed let my subjective beliefs about his family and their probable fate override what the young man wants.
All beliefs are subjective, by the way. What else could they be?
Then every murder is moral if the murderer subjectively thinks murder is moral.
No. Only the ones where I agree that the killing was moral.
Murder and killing are two entirely different things, by the way. 'Murder' presupposes guilt and immorality.
You just pronounced every murder and evil act on the planet moral if the perpetrator thinks it is.
How interesting that the self-proclaimed atheist would use a word like 'evil'. I'm an atheist, at least on odd days of the month, and the word 'evil' doesn't even make sense to me. Are you sure you are an atheist?
You weren't shot in the head, by any chance?
Haven't you figured out yet that I am way beyond having any of my strings pulled. Certainly not by you, anyway.
