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SoyLeche said:In case you didn't notice - I called EVERYONE biased. Don't take it personally. You're very likely no more biased than I am. Quite possibly less.
Good, then we agree
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SoyLeche said:In case you didn't notice - I called EVERYONE biased. Don't take it personally. You're very likely no more biased than I am. Quite possibly less.
George Galloway was born in Dundee. He's Scottish.xander- said:Galloway isn't a Scotsman, his accent threw me off. He's from Ireland.
Whether Shebaa Farms is Syrian or Lebanese territory is itself a matter of fierce debate.c0da said:He also calls Israel's occupation of the Sheba'a Farms 'Israel's occupation of Lebanese territory' and tries to justify Hizballah's atrocities using that - even though Sheba'a Farms is Syrian territory!
kai said:galloway is a joke , a very bad joke . I personally wish he would move to his beloved arab countries and practise his free speech or Cuba he likes it there so much
c0da said:Hizballah and Lebanon have both called for the destruction of Israel then.
He also calls Israel's occupation of the Sheba'a Farms 'Israel's occupation of Lebanese territory' and tries to justify Hizballah's atrocities using that
even though Sheba'a Farms is Syrian territory!
Shebaa Farms is a small area of disputed ownership located at the junction of Syria, Lebanon, and Israel. Prior to the 1967 war it was under direct Syrian control. It was captured by Israel during the war with Syria. The area is located between the Lebanese village of Shebaa on the northwestern slopes of Mount Hermon, the Druze village of Majdal Shams in the Golan Heights (about seven km away), and Israeli towns that it overlooks below such as Qiryat Shemona.
It's their FULL right to ask for the destruction of Israel and i don't have to prove it for you because you can see what they DID and still DOING to their country, TOTAL REAL DESTRUCTION BUT NOT JUST CALLING FOR IT.
Was under Syrian control only and it's not Syrian territory. It was captured later on by Israel, then the UN gave it to Israel by default. LOL
xander- said:Ouch, that is seeming to say that I'm bias.. That's not nice, you don't even know me!
Haha, no but honestly, the news in Denmark is just news, telling you upfront everything. Neither taking a opinion nor putting a specific party in a positive/negative light, it is really non-bias.
c0da said:Oh don't give me that. Hizballah and Iran's sabre rattling was going on before Israeli incursions into Lebanon.
Ok, but my point still remains. Why is Galloway trying to legitimise the actions of a Lebanese terrorist group when the land they are supposedly fighting about was originally Syrian.
Terrywoodenpic said:Galloway Has always been a fighter for the underdog.
In recent years that has meant the Arabs the Cubans and the catholic Irish.
He has been attacked by the British and American establishment many times.
He has been taken to court over the accuracy of his statements on several occasions.
He has always been found correct and won.
He has out stayed a number of prime ministers and presidents.
He has been thrown out of the labour party on at least one occasion.
He has out faced the US senate committee over Iraq.
He has been re-elected by the popular vote of his constituency, against opposition of
all parties.
HE is not a little man.
What he says makes many, who hold establishment ideas, very angry.
But what he says is with honest belief.
As to the popularity of Blair and his Middle East policies, he is now very much on his own; Polls have shown that Israeli popularity is at an all time low in the UK
Blair's popularity is below that needed to get re-elected.
The British Cabinet is totally split over his ME policy.
Even our Foreign minister stopped the US flying bombs to Israel via the UK.
You can find few who are now prepared to openly support the Israeli position in the UK
Jaiket said:George Galloway was born in Dundee. He's Scottish.
The guy's great value I suppose. He's a fantastic debater, very articulate and straight for the throat.
As a 'champion for Palestine' I think he correctly identified a severe injustice and rather unfashionably (at the time) stood against it. His stance is often nuts though. He appears to sympathise with anyone who opposes Israel and the West. Take this gem, "Hezbollah has never been a terrorist organisation".
Aye, right George.
MidnightBlue said:Whether Shebaa Farms is Syrian or Lebanese territory is itself a matter of fierce debate.
It is kind of an interesting line of reasoning, isn't it? Lebanon says it's Lebanese territory; Syria says it's Lebanese territory; Israel says it's Syrian territory, and therefore Israel has the right to occupy it.greatcalgarian said:That is not Israel territory for sure. What are they doing there?
Oh man, don't tell me you don't know that Lebanon was invaded by Israel several time before this time, even worse one !!!
Terrywoodenpic said:But what he says is with honest belief
MidnightBlue said:It is kind of an interesting line of reasoning, isn't it? Lebanon says it's Lebanese territory; Syria says it's Lebanese territory; Israel says it's Syrian territory, and therefore Israel has the right to occupy it.
JamesThePersian said:I'd have to say that he's not incorrect about Christians supporting Hezbollah if he was talking about Lebanon. I've heard quite a lot from the Christian community there because quite a high proportion are Orthodox under the Patriarch of Antioch (those that aren't Maronite Catholics). They certainly didn't support Hezbollah to start off with but now seem to view them as attempting to defend Lebanon from aggression. This has particularly been the case since Israel started bombing Christian areas (including an Orthodox Church). Whilst I can't agree with supporting Hezbollah nor can I agree with supporting Israel in this conflict. And if I try to put myself in the shoes of my fellow Christians in Lebanon, I can certainly understand why support for Hezbollah might seem the best option, even if I do think it is wrong.
James
greatcalgarian said:The Alaska people say that Alaska is US territory, Canada says it's US territory; China says it's Canadian territory, and therefore China has the right to occupy it. That's cool, must quickly let the Chinese Premier know about this, and inform our Canadian prime minister as well.