Nor is the word “ produced” used, rather possessed, which is speaking about the wisdom (in context of the whole passage), that God possessed from everlasting…
The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old.
I have been established from everlasting…
Proverbs8:22-23...
or even Proverbs8 :22 Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way,The earliest of his achievements of long ago.23 From ancient times I was installed,From the start, from times earlier than the earth.
Romans 8:13
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
When you Eat foods that is Unhealthy because it tastes good and Smoke for pleasure knowing that it could Kill you, you are Strong in the Body. These are...
I will address your points separately...
1) Are you seriously judging people's ability to understand Scripture by what they eat and/or whether s/he smokes or not? That is so absurd that it's not even worth discussing. Eating meat and smoking tobacco have nothing to do with a person's...
I have deep respect for you because I was very much saying the same as you! I would fight tooth and nail because I believed in the Trinity and so did my whole family! I was 19 years old and every single person I came in contact with told me to stay away from anybody that does not believe in the...
Yes, there are other nontrinitarian bibles out there teaching polytheism and henotheism, but two wrongs don't make a right! Look at the deceptions. An organization should not need to use deception to support its teachings. Deceiving while teaching doctrine is a warning that something nefarious...
Look above you said only Jehovah was the creator. Never mind, Firstborn, we can get to that that later. You believe that Jesus creates as it says in Cor 1:16, 17. You believe he is a god. a "Master workman! You are polytheistic! Two gods/Gods that create!
But Col 1:16,17 says "For by him...
No, I’m not ignoring anything. (You should read verse 15… “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation” which I think you are ignoring.) Look at the context…
It is “by” Jesus, or “through” Jesus, that everything was created. He was the “skilled craftsman” of Proverbs...
You are ignoring this scripture.
Col 1:16, 17 - For by him [Jesus] all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things...
This is not accurate. Only Jehovah was / is the Creator. Jesus came to be “beside Him as a Master workman”
—Proverbs8:29,30
Before that, he was “the beginning of the creation by God.”
(Revelation 3:12) The very first.
Developing over time like we do, yes. Jesus would be that representation, or so it's stated in the bible, growing in stature and wisdom. The Old Testament would allude to this being the case for God in Proverbs8. Having a similar discussion concerning entropy, it seems a valid enough stance...
Rebecca told Jacob to break multiple of the ten commandments, steal the reward Esau earned for service of the God of Abraham and the most anointed prophet (pope) , religious superior of the world, male superior of the household , She told him to steal it through taking credit for her work (she...
god is consciousness, or god is spirit.
spirit is literally consciousness, mind.
john 4:24
what is the word you're referring to in proverbs8, or verse(s)
Right .... Wisdom as a type of God ... now if you want to go a little gnostic ... and call it an emanation from the Godhead -- I can go with that.. the nature of that emanation being left in question
We have to stretch the definition of God .. one which has - by western Muslim and...
Incredible insight ... Sophia (wisdom) discernment, tabuwn and tabuwna (intellect understanding) all with feminine applications as proverbial assistants with the Creator, being a delightful companion ... Going back to proverbs. 8 specifically ... The lord possessed (wisdom) in the beginning of...
Mark,
The Son was made of a woman, made under the law. Galatians 4:4 So that body did not exist until it was born.
God created all things alone and by himself as it says in Isaiah 44:24. It's just that God had a plan. God created everything revolving around the Son. The Son was the...
But you seem to have ignored the verses that let you know that it was talking about wisdom. Proverbs8:1 and 8:12
Wisdom and understanding were there, but they are not actually a person.